Posted on 08/13/2005 8:26:49 AM PDT by Coop
"So you've already decided that this is a false alarm. And just how, pray tell, do you know more than the experts with actual access to the materials & equipment"
Just the latest DNC Talking Point memo being regurgitated by the mind dead twits from DU. Figure if they scream it often enough no reality will ever penetrate their bigoted little world.
I guess this, along with the other findings don't count as WMD's. How do they get away with this?!
There's been no determination made on this facility yet.
Well Saddam may have bought it from the west, but he sure did operate it. He had state of the art 5 axis milling machines and plasma arc welders. They weren't housed at your local donkey cart service center, but at a State facility machining explosives for nuclear bombs and welding centrifuges and missile tubes.
Amazing how many were willing to depend on the predictability of a madman and his sons.
It frightens me that people like you - so out of touch I'm amazed you're connected to the 'Net - get to have their votes count as much as mine.
Please back up your absurd claim, so that I may enthusiastically pick it apart.
Tell them Iraq had no WMD.
Would you sell me that bag of asbestos---if you can find it? It's not entirely banned but sure is a lot harder to find nowdays. Restricting a perfectly good material was one of the dumbest moves of the 20th century.
A lot of folks were expounding on the stuff shown in the pics---and so was I. Later I saw a partial list of chemicals found in the area. I use all of those also. I didn't see anyone from DOD make a statement as to what the whole package was being used for---if you did please advise.? I don't talk about things I don't know about. Before you question my credentials to evaluate the hardware in a picture you should have the courtesy to ask a few more questions---or do you just prefer to jump to conclusions?
Not sure about the chemistry of getting a cellulose base from Bayer's but I'll take your word for it.
They don't have to spin it if they all agree to not report it at all. And that only takes one FAX from arkansas (or maybe NYC, nowadaze).
chemical PING!
The pot asked the kettle.
But wouldn't it be a hoot to find out the captured squeeler was actually fingering some poor schmuck with an air conditioning shop that he had a grudge with----it's been happening from day one in Iraq and the real problem is that the folks taking the pics just don't know what they're looking at.
[sniff, sniff] Smells like fertilizer around here...
The things you mention don't qualify as "sophisticated", at least to me. five axis mills have been around for 30 years and I have yet to see evidence of a modern control system in the background of any pic out of Iraq. My oldest plasma machine is about 20 years old and was already 2nd generation when I bought it----these are just regular tools that one needs to actually build stuff. The only machine I've seen in an Iraq pic that was actually in running condition was a reciprocating hack saw---good sturdy machine, probly communist block, but old school. There aren't any US makers that even list them anymore. Remember WW II---60 years ago---that's all the machinery, from that period, Saddam would have needed to build nuclear stuff. Other than a few weapons purchased from the FRCG's, the Iraq's, I'll say again, got nothin'sophisticated.!!
Saddam did have a couple small arms ammo plants---the equipment was CENTURY OLD technology. And check his power grid---I've yet to see a section of it that could run CNC machinery. My machines are EXTREMELY sensitive to power fluctuations and will just shut down if not treated nicely. Saddam may, if he tried, have learned that the hard way too.
pot/kettle?
So what's your point? I know what I see in the DOD pics. I have stuff just like it. I also know DOD said they didn't know what was being made, if anything. That's exactly what I said---the guy who took the pics didn't know what he was looking at. If you have a point please make it.
Sorry. Didn't mean to beat around the bush. My point is you're a rambling hypocrite.
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