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LIVE THREAD: H.O.T. CHAPTER'S CRAWFORD SUPPORT PRES. AND TROOPS RALLY (8/13/05)
Link to Announcement Thread ^ | Saturday, August 13, 2005 | Kristinn

Posted on 08/13/2005 6:55:59 AM PDT by kristinn

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To: glock rocks

Thanks tons for the screen caps, glock rocks. Our power went out yesterday afternoon (big thunder boomer) and I am just now getting to follow this thread to the end.


1,641 posted on 08/14/2005 4:29:46 AM PDT by Bahbah (Air America: kids-for-kilowatts)
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To: SoCalPol

My mom took my 5-year-old to see "March of the Penguins." They both liked it very much, but it was a little bit long for a small child.


1,642 posted on 08/14/2005 4:45:55 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Liberals: Too stupid to realize Dick Cheney is the real Dark Lord.)
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To: Seattle Conservative

Their ice cream is okay, but after tasting Blue Bell, nothing is very good. Their ice cream tastes too heavy. Blue Bell is just right! ---made from contented cows!


1,643 posted on 08/14/2005 4:47:11 AM PDT by mathluv (Mercy shown to an evil man is cruelty to the innocent.)
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To: All

1,644 posted on 08/14/2005 5:11:48 AM PDT by usmcobra
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To: 2nd amendment mama; concerned about politics; RonDog; mewzilla
Fenton Communications - yeah know that rings some bells. They have offices spread around a couple of places that I can recall. They're famous for being wrapped up in lefty-Marxist skullduggery that goes on, particularly with those so-called "peace" outfits which are nothing but fronts.

All the Moveon.org / (September 11 Families for) Peaceful Tomorrows / Ramsey Clark / International Action Center / Institute for Global Communications (IGC) / Tides Foundation & Tides Center / Veterans For Peace (directly associated with Military Families Speak Out) and Bringthemhomenow.org  associations and tie-ins are rather interesting.

A LOT of info about all the interconnections already resides here on FR, and was generated mainly in 2004, related to sKerry's run for POTUS because of all the peacenik groups that suddenly fell out of the wood-work at the time, but have a hard time recalling fine details of it - it's been a while. After doing some drive-digging I had only saved just a couple of FR pages of it, which wasn't very helpful.
 
If you do a search for thread titles that include Peaceful Tomorrows, Veterans For Peace, Military Families Speak Out, Tides Foundation and/or Tides Center in the heading, or keyword search using PEACEFULTOMORROWS, TIDES, TIDESFOUNDATION, VETERANSFORPEACE, MFSO, MILITARYFAMILIESSPEAKOUT, SOROS, it's a sure bet you'll hit paydirt.

The legwork has already been done, sifted, catalogued and filed. All anybody has to do is refer to it and run with it. Hopefully this can save you all some time and drudgery  : )
 
Comrade Field Marshall Cindy's 15 minutes of fame are pretty well up.
 
 

1,645 posted on 08/14/2005 5:36:34 AM PDT by lapsus calami
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To: Jeff Head
Having first cup of coffee and started going through this thread- WOW! I was struck by your remark "At some point...it stopped being grief and it became hate."

Michael Moore’s' people have a way of using good people and turning them into anti-Americans. Cindy has become an embarrassment to most women, especially the Military wife now and past. She has become the enemy her son went to fight.

I am too far away to join you Freepers in Crawford, so sent my thanks - again via the White House comment line, to President Bush. And here is my thanks to you wonderful Freepers in Crawford!

THANK YOU FREEPERS FOR BEING THERE - AN ALL AMERICAN GROUP STANDING FOR OUR PRESIDENT AND OUR TROOPS!

1,646 posted on 08/14/2005 5:44:13 AM PDT by yoe
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To: lapsus calami
Maybe Cindy can go to work for Ms. Heinz Kerry Heinz and the Tides Foundation......

"Teresa Heinz Kerry has financed the secretive Tides Foundation to the tune of more than $4 million over the years. The Tides Foundation, a “charity” established in 1976 by antiwar leftist activist Drummond Pike, distributes millions of dollars in grants every year to political organizations advocating far-Left causes. The Tides Foundation and its closely allied Tides Center, which was spun off from the Foundation in 1996 but run by Drummond Pike, distributed nearly $66 million in grants in 2002 alone. In all, Tides has distributed more than $300 million for the Left. These funds went to rabid antiwar demonstrators, anti-trade demonstrators, domestic Islamist organizations, pro-terrorists legal groups, environmentalists, abortion partisans, extremist homosexual activists and open borders advocates."

What ever made John and Teresa Kerry think America would put them in the White House.

1,647 posted on 08/14/2005 5:57:37 AM PDT by yoe
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To: Revel
They actually have a website called "meet with cindy.com"

That website is owned by David Swanson. Some info about him:

David Swanson is one of the co-founders of the AfterDowningStreet.org Coalition, a board member of Progressive Democrats of America, the Washington Director of Democrats.com, an Executive Council Member of the Washington-Baltimore Newspaper Guild, CWA, AFL-CIO, a former Media Coordinator of the International Labor Communications Association, former Press Secretary of Dennis Kucinich for President, former Communications Coordinator for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), former labor writer at the Bureau of National Affairs, and generally mad as hell. His website is www.davidswanson.org

1,648 posted on 08/14/2005 6:07:11 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: yoe
There you go, yoe - it's just a matter of  adhering to Rule #1 - following the money.
 
It's not about "grieving mother", or even just "protestor" - it's going to boil down to Cindy being just another paid hack for a Marxist front group. What's important is to demonstrate that in a credible and tangible fashion, and all her public novelty will wear off in a hurry.
 
 

1,649 posted on 08/14/2005 6:08:22 AM PDT by lapsus calami
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To: lapsus calami
Just another paid hack...


BUSH PROTESTING MOM CALLS FOR 'ISRAEL OUT
OF PALESTINE'; VOWS NOT TO PAY TAXES


1,650 posted on 08/14/2005 6:10:29 AM PDT by XR7
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To: TASMANIANRED; TaxRelief

1,651 posted on 08/14/2005 6:19:18 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA



1,652 posted on 08/14/2005 6:22:58 AM PDT by BlackRain
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To: Jeff Head; kristinn; Doctor Raoul

What the left is saying...

The savaging of Cindy Sheehan
Matthew Rothschild, The Progressive

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m14569&l=i&size=1&hd=0

August 12, 2005

The shameless savaging of Cindy Sheehan continues.

Bill O'Reilly says she's a tool of "far left elements."

The New York Sun echoes the charge, evidently reading the same rightwing talking points.

In an editorial on August 11, it says Sheehan "has put herself in league with some extreme groups and individuals."

This is old-style McCarthyism, straight on down to the red-baiting.

The editorial quotes Sheehan about some of the groups she's involved with, including Code Pink, Veterans for Peace, and Military Families Speak Out.

It then notes that these groups are on the steering committee of United for Peace and Justice, along with the Communist Party USA. (A person representing that party is one of the forty-one members who was voted onto the steering committee.)



This classic guilt-by-association trope just shows the reflexive response of the right: When your critic has credibility, and you can't find anything else on her, destroy her with the old standby: You're a communist dupe!

The Sun also points out that Sheehan is working with the Crawford Peace House, and it says that group's website "includes a photo depicting the entire state of Israel as Palestine." Actually, it depicts a protester holding a sign showing four maps of what is now Israel and the Occupied Territories, noting how Palestinians have been allowed less and less land over the past 60 years.

"Nobody is anti-Israel here," says John Wolf, one of the founders of the Crawford Peace House. "We're just asking for peace with justice and respect for international law."

But for the New York Sun, the Crawford Peace House's view of the Israel-Palestine conflict is convenient enough to tar Cindy Sheehan with.

Rightwing talk show host Phil Hendrie goes even lower, writing an article amazingly entitled "Anti-War Mom: Another Ignorant Cow," Hendrie called Sheehan a "self-righteous ignoramus," and then went into full mockery mode: "A mother grieving her loss. The inhumanity of war. Oh, the wickedness of it all."

I've seen callousness before, but this piece may top them all. And catch Hendrie's defense of the Iraq War: "This war was unavoidable, brought on by an historic clash of culture and ideal, powered by the American people themselves, rising to meet the future, pissing off the rag heads." Rag heads?

By the way, Hendrie's screed was posted on the website, freerepublic.com, which calls itself "the premier online gathering place for independent, grassroots conservatism on the web."

Sheehan responds to her critics: "Nothing you can say can hurt me or make me stop what we are doing. We are working for peace with justice. We are using peaceful means and the truth to do it."

(c) 2005 The Progressive.


1,653 posted on 08/14/2005 6:27:08 AM PDT by Huber (Australian Rules Rugby - A Sport of Peace, Islam - A Religion of Peace...)
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To: All
This thread is overwhelming! I hope it will be around long enough for me to have time to read every post. A sincere thanks to all of you who couldn't be in Crawford yesterday, but who were obviously there in spirit.

I just got home from the airport--Doctor Raoul should by now be winging his way back to Pennsylvania. What a supurb job he did for us! I hope when he gets home that he will start a new thread--because there is so much that happened that we haven't been able to tell y'all about yet.

This was a fantastic day in Crawford. I can't say enough good things about the Crawford Police Dept (all 4 officers--LOL!). They couldn't have been nicer or more helpful. They kept all the disruptors out once we had to discharge a few ourselves, and let the officers know that we had had to do that. It sure made our rally go smoother---

Once again, thank JimRob and freepers everywhere. We must keep these rallies going on around the country---and make sure the troops both in the Middle East and here at home know that most Americans support and love them, and appreciate their sacrifices. We must not let the other side convince either the American public, nor our military that this is not a just war that must be fought to the end. We cannot let this turn into another Viet Nam situation where the "Peaceniks" are able to convince the politicians to pull out before the job is done.

1,654 posted on 08/14/2005 6:31:17 AM PDT by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: Jim Robinson; TXBubba

1,655 posted on 08/14/2005 6:32:48 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: BlackRain

ugh -- I wore a hat just like that yesterday. *L* I didn't know!


1,656 posted on 08/14/2005 6:37:58 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: freeperkiki

1,657 posted on 08/14/2005 6:45:31 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA

Nice pic!


1,658 posted on 08/14/2005 6:46:39 AM PDT by Huber (The Botfly - An Insect of Peace, Islam - A Religion of Peace...)
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To: ValerieUSA

Just found this on a lefty blog:

The Louisiana Activists Network has just issued a call to action for a mass rally to be held in Crawford, Texas the weekend of August 26th through the 28th. More details to follow as soon as they are available. Those interested in participating, endorsing or supporting this effort should visit the LAN website at http://www.newdemocracyrising.com/


1,659 posted on 08/14/2005 7:01:00 AM PDT by texjan
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To: Brad's Gramma; zip

Ah come on...did you guys REALLY not understand Blastus' rambling or were you just too tired to see the hypocricy of the left and the sarcasm in which his post was written? Just in case....they say we are distroying the world with global warming. They want everyone to ride bicycles. Were they riding them? The environmental rules apply to all but them. Does that make it more clear? TX


1,660 posted on 08/14/2005 7:02:22 AM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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