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IS TAIWAN A POSSESSION OF THE UNITED STATES?
To the Point News ^ | 8/11/05 | Jack Wheeler

Posted on 08/12/2005 8:09:06 PM PDT by abigail2

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To: muawiyah

Fair enough, but however much it might be 'a fact' that we own Taiwan it's an issue that's going nowhere because we recognize that Taiwan is part of China, and China is the PRC...with, of course, complications. The time for us to make a claim was when the Japanese left, or the KMT arrived, or when Nixon went to China.

I wish there were an easy way around this problem, but, barring the rapid the democratization of China - and even then, the necessary acquiesence of the Taiwanese people - that's not going to happen.

And I can't imagine what a US war over Taiwan would look like, thank god.


41 posted on 08/12/2005 9:02:50 PM PDT by cambridge
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To: abigail2

bump


42 posted on 08/12/2005 9:03:23 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (America is gradually becoming the Godless,out-of-control golden-calf scene,in "The Ten Commandments")
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To: cambridge
The only value in a claim to the land is to keep out the PRC.

Otherwise I don't think we wish to evict the people who live there ~ but, you never know what will happen in the future.

The Chicom nutcases go tossing a few nukes our way, the Chinese, per se, may well be in some serious biological difficulty.

43 posted on 08/12/2005 9:06:21 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: abigail2

This is interesting. Somebody's going to have to contact Jimmy Carter and tell him.


44 posted on 08/12/2005 9:07:16 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: abigail2
In the formal Treaty of Shimonoseki signed in April, 1985

Hmm, how did I manage to miss that? Wonder if Reagan attended?

45 posted on 08/12/2005 9:14:52 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Have you noticed the ROC flag? It's not very different from ours. The original KMT/Nationalist party star-symbol (white star shaped object on a field of blue) is set where our own 50 white stars are on our own field of patriotic blue. The rest of the flag is Chinese lucky red where ours has stripes of white and red. An expat American can look at the ROC flag, and feel a (very) serious tug. It's the flag you see on those old Flying Tigers jackets.

If Taiwanese, ever did somehow decide on statehood - disregarding for sake of discussion the ... dustup that could start - the flag issue itself would not present a design problem. Fire up an ACER or Tatong computer with a CAD program written in Hsinchu, you could have a new design in no more than 15 fen zhong.


46 posted on 08/12/2005 9:19:02 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (What the heck is 15 fen zhong?)
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To: abigail2
...- the gargantuan but -- ...

Hillary?

47 posted on 08/12/2005 9:25:52 PM PDT by uglybiker (Did ya hear the one about the cannibal who passed his best friend in the forest?)
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To: abigail2

Well, this would explain why the Chinese communists are so vociferous in their claims on the island. They probably came to the same conclusion at one time or another.


48 posted on 08/12/2005 9:36:49 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (When a Jihadist dies, an angel gets its wings)
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To: hosepipe

Wheeler IS a pistol!


49 posted on 08/12/2005 9:51:04 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: hosepipe
My friend, the sad truth is that we HAVE to do both. I fault the Bush administration for not doing, IMHO, enough on the southern border and many people are working in concert to change that...and I believe it will change. At the same time, we cannot cut loose or abandon our allies and friends to tyranny across the seaeither.

We are strong enough to do both...the question is whether we will or not.

50 posted on 08/12/2005 9:51:10 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: abigail2

"What is it going to do with it?"

Congress will find a way to tax it while the IRS finds a way to get them for unpaid back taxes.


51 posted on 08/12/2005 9:52:07 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: abigail2

bump for safekeeping.


52 posted on 08/12/2005 9:54:21 PM PDT by Excellence
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To: HiTech RedNeck
new flag: 50 stars and a chinese gong.

When I was growing up, "Taiwan" was called Formosa. Beijing was called Peking. Muslims were called Moslems!! What the hell is going on here??!! Can't we just stop for a minute and quit renaming things? What's next?? Are they going to rename Saigon, "Ho Chi Minh City??!! Come on, people! Get a grip!!

53 posted on 08/12/2005 10:11:56 PM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: abigail2
America owns Taiwan. What is it going to do with it?

Taiwan already has McDonalds and the Disney channel.

54 posted on 08/12/2005 10:18:15 PM PDT by Once-Ler (16 months til Byrd is ousted from office, and Kennedy ain't getin younger)
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To: softwarecreator

LOL! I got sidetracked and didn't post it!


55 posted on 08/12/2005 10:31:03 PM PDT by abigail2 ('The difficulty of the task is no excuse for avoiding it.' George Bush Inaugural Speech '05)
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To: abigail2

I never heard tell of this.


56 posted on 08/12/2005 11:58:23 PM PDT by Salamander (We're pain, we're steel, a plot of knives. We're Transmaniacon MC!)
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To: abigail2

IMHO, No one "owns" Taiwan or the Taiwanese people, how very 19th century of the writer. That being said, if China wanted to try and take it by force, I do believe they will wait until after Jan. 2008, for obvious reasons. GWB wouldn't stand for it. Hitlery would, so would McCain. One of those two are most likely (sad to say it) going to be our next president, and I don't see a whole lot of backbone in either one for protecting democracy in the world.


57 posted on 08/13/2005 12:04:13 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (The defense of our nation should begin at the borders...Mr President?.....George?)
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To: abigail2

thanks for the ping...it would be nice if Taiwan had a huge arsenal of nuclear weapons so the chinese would be frightened to try and attack them.


58 posted on 08/13/2005 1:12:26 AM PDT by fabian
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To: abigail2

The UN is involved, so we can expect little in the way of legal relief for Taiwan. In 1971 the UN affirmed Red China’s claim to Taiwan with Resolution 2758 - which recognized Red China as the sole representative of China (including Taiwan) in the organization.


59 posted on 08/13/2005 2:52:09 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: R. Scott
The UN is involved, so we can expect little in the way of legal relief for Taiwan. In 1971 the UN affirmed Red China’s claim to Taiwan with Resolution 2758 - which recognized Red China as the sole representative of China (including Taiwan) in the organization.

Well, that settles it for Justice Breyer and his ilk!

60 posted on 08/13/2005 2:56:38 AM PDT by twntaipan (EU: The Eurabian Union?)
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