[MNJohnnie]

Fiscally, LBJ and George Bush are bigger socialists than FDR Only if you lump in Defense spending with all other spending. Somehow I think the idea of lumping in Defense Spending in your daily tirades against Bush will not sell real well here.

[Dont_Tread_On_Me_888]

No, that is not true.

National Defense is one superfunction of the US Budget.

Human Resources (call it social welfare) is another superfunction.

When I say social spending or refer to socialism or call George Bush a fiscal liberal, I am refering to spending other than National Defense.

I crunch the numbers. I have the facts. You may have an opinion, but I have the facts. The facts are the OMB's Historical Tables for the US Budget. George Bush is a fiscal liberal. You will remain in denial, but those are the FACTS.