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To: GestehenSieUndGibtAuf
"What if your obedience to his laws is not good enough? Do have to obey the laws 10%,30%,70% or 90% what is enough and how do you know when you have been obedient enough?"

Alexander Rubin can answer that better than I can. But IMO, a Christian cannot answer that for himself with regard to the topic of variations between Christian and Jewish beliefs adequately without self-study of quite a few original references (including at least several different bible translations).

I am not Jewish but am involved in the lifetime study of Christianity and Judaism (and in my own conversion). The study started with the New Testament. See, for example, the word errors in Hebrews 9:7 (King James), then read Hebrews 9:7-12.

Now look at the original Greek text for the word agnoema. ...unintentional sins. There were many other questions that I sought to find the answers to--for example, where Jesus started reciting laws to a man who asked him as to how to get to heaven. And there has been (and will be) much, much more study.

I've studied many of the documents and comments of the Church (Roman Catholic Church) "fathers."

Again, I've not even begun to be qualified to speak for Jews (much less rabbis). But the best that I can tell, so far, in Jewish scriptures (not only referring to "writings" here), redemption comes historically from sacrifice for sin (unintentional sins), repentance (the only way after intentional sins) and charity. G-d will determine as to who has done enough to have a place in the world to come (see disclaimer about me not having begun any formal study of Judaism), but people of any of several religions can possibly do it. Hopefully, some Jewish friends will correct/help me with that--especially on "sacrifice," as my study has far to go.

Trying to do what is righteous and studying much to find out seems to be a step in the right direction (which many Christian fundamentalists also believe to be true). ...enormous amount of study yet for me to learn more about all of that, but I want to find the truth for sure.

...hope that helps, with my past Christian insight (former Southern Baptist) and all. And BTW, I'm very much a believer and very conservative. ...just changing.
59 posted on 08/12/2005 1:53:36 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: familyop; GestehenSieUndGibtAuf
"What if your obedience to his laws is not good enough? Do have to obey the laws 10%,30%,70% or 90% what is enough and how do you know when you have been obedient enough?"

A short answer, regardless of their inflated egos, freepers don't get to judge. Bruising, I know.

Can you post after death, maybe I'll write a vanity.

66 posted on 08/12/2005 2:34:41 PM PDT by SJackson (America...thru dissent and protest lost the ability to mobilize a will to win, Col Bui Tin, PAVN)
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To: familyop
I am encouraged by your dedication to studying the word of the Lord.

Deu 4:29 But from there you will seek the Lord your God, and you will find Him if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul.

Luk 11:9 So I say to you, ask and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.

94 posted on 08/12/2005 6:00:51 PM PDT by JesusBmyGod
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