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1 posted on 08/12/2005 6:25:58 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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"Speaking a language other than English is not only disrespectful, it's also prohibited."

This sign ought to be posted in every business in this country.

2 posted on 08/12/2005 6:30:17 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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how is telling someone they have to speak english employment discrimination? he's not saying that he's gonna fire you for being hispanic, just for speaking a foriegn language.. which i find to be obnoxiously rude.


3 posted on 08/12/2005 6:32:35 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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When you know enough Spanish you find out that all too many Hispanic conversations in the workplace are heavily tinged with vile racial and sexual slurs, innuendo and insults.

Rather than ban this stuff, the best bet is for companies such as "Super Cuts" to simply record conversations, have them translated, and use them as a basis for firing the offending employees. Customers who had been subjected to the insults might well be invited in to bring action against the former employees.

There's simply no reason to let non-English speaking workers get away with things English speakers can be punished for doing.

4 posted on 08/12/2005 6:33:30 AM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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I have to be honest here, I get annoyed when people speak Spanish around me. Yet, I think it sounds cool when my hair stylist speaks Russian to her friends. Maybe it's because Spanish, to me, is symbolic of a lack of regard for the laws of this country.

I know for a fact that my hairstylist came to this country legally and obtained her full citizenship. I have a habit of doubting the citizenship of anybody speaking Spanish.


5 posted on 08/12/2005 6:36:17 AM PDT by T.Smith
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If I were the employer, I'd mandate English as a prerequisite for hiring. Period. And in MY place of business, the only time another language would be acceptable would be IF A CUSTOMER initiated the conversation.

Foreign language skills are handy sometimes. Only a fool lacks the ability or refuses to distinguish those times.


11 posted on 08/12/2005 6:43:42 AM PDT by azhenfud (This tag line is currently experiencing technical difficulties. Please stand by.)
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The immigrant Spanish are the first significant group coming to Americato who largely refuse to learn English and thus are fast becoming the first group to destroy opportunities for their non-English fluent children.


15 posted on 08/12/2005 6:46:33 AM PDT by squirt-gun
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I've always avoided SuperCuts because the stylists are so often beginners..Now, to heck with what my hair looks like..Suer Cuts here I come!

They may not be hair pros..but they are Pro-United States


38 posted on 08/12/2005 7:00:38 AM PDT by Iron Matron (Illegals should be Caught and Deported; not Released and Supported!)
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Preventing your employees from speaking a different language than English on the job is not discrimination nor a violation of anyone's rights, IMO.

If this employer had a policy where people weren't allowed to speak Spanish on breaks or when no customers were around, they're over-controlling jerks. However, such a rule doesn't violate anyone's rights.


53 posted on 08/12/2005 7:15:12 AM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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Funny related story. A friend was having her nails done at one of those Asian places where nobody speaks English. The TV was set to Days of Our Lives, and all the nail techs were quietly watching and occasionally murmuring to each other in Chinese. An older Chinese man came out from the back room and switched the channel. My friend's nail tech, who was the oldest woman there, immediately turned to the older Chinese man and began loudly berating him in Chinese while gesturing at the TV, and the man (obviously her husband) promptly switched the channel back. My friend smiled at the nail tech and said, "You like Days of Our Lives too, huh?" The nail tech's eyebrows shot up and she then asked my friend, "You speak Chinese?"
LOL.


57 posted on 08/12/2005 7:17:56 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (There will be no bad talk or loud talk in this place. CB Stubblefield.)
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lawsuit-fabrication alert.


75 posted on 08/12/2005 7:59:43 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (see my FR page for a link to the tribute to Terri Schaivo, a short video presentation.)
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-"Business[es] need to understand that we are free to speak our language."-

You're not free to swear or stand on a soapbox, either; free speech and language don't exist in a business setting. The boss wants you to speak English so he can understand what's going on in his own business. Now...if Italian was allowed, but not Spanish, I could see the point. As it is, this former employee set up by La Raza or whoever recruited her, hasn't got a leg to stand on. I just hope Supercuts will continue to stand up for themselves.


92 posted on 08/12/2005 8:20:48 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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So the lawsuit has a little bit of truth to it:

"Hirsch said there is a written policy limiting language other than English.

"The goal of the policy was to speak essentially whatever language you chose in the lunchroom or on breaks, when you're not servicing customers," Hirsch said."

This was buried at the end of the article.

But, it appears these women are taking it too far and saying there was a blanket ban.

There is not. If you are on break talking to another employee, you can speak Spanish.

But, when you are with customers, you need to speak English.

Seems reasonable to me.


103 posted on 08/12/2005 8:35:25 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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Wish I'd taken a picture to prove it:

Hospital waiting room sign in English and Spanish, both telling how the hospital will treat you regardless of race, religion, age, etc. The only difference: The Spanish version had an extra sentence about what number to call if you feel you've been discriminated against.


107 posted on 08/12/2005 8:39:51 AM PDT by P.O.E. (.)
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I do have to admit I like working where I work, because you have to be an American citizen to work here....


119 posted on 08/12/2005 8:56:30 AM PDT by Die_Hard Conservative Lady (Close the borders.....)
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The federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, which joined in the lawsuit, argues that such a ban is a violation of the 1964 Civil Rights Act that prohibits employment discrimination based on national origin

Isn't it just special that an act which purported to just end discrimination against Southern Blacks is now being used to create a second official language in our nation, for the benefit of people who for the most part are not even citizens.

126 posted on 08/12/2005 9:06:49 AM PDT by montag813
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IF BUSH DOES NOT ORDER THE EEOC TO DROP THE CASE THAN HE IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE. Consider this a litmus test. The Civil Rights Act's reference to national origin does not mean you can avoid learning English when you move from that origion to America. Any EEOC interpretation otherwise is a vast overstepping of bounds and they must be ordered to back off or face disciplinary action.

Why do we elect Republicans or so-called Conservatives when the same Marxist apparatchiks just keep their jobs year after year and policies never move even an inch to the right?

136 posted on 08/12/2005 9:14:41 AM PDT by montag813
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CAIR Chicago - Board Member

Kamran Memon is a civil rights attorney practicing in Chicago. He is also a member of the National Employment Lawyers Association.

He handles cases involving discrimination by employers against employees, and discrimination by businesses against customers. He has also handled cases involving discrimination by police against individuals, and discrimination by schools against students. He has represented Muslim victims of discrimination before and after 9/11. He is a founder of the Muslim Bar Association of Chicago, and a member of the National Association of Muslim Lawyers. He graduated from the University of Chicago Law School in 1997.

141 posted on 08/12/2005 9:25:09 AM PDT by kcvl
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It is well past the time that an official language -- English -- be declared for the United States.


151 posted on 08/12/2005 9:52:59 AM PDT by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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I find the signs in miami which have "se habla ingles" to be more offensive.

Particularly in a state which has a constitutional amendment making English officially the language of the state.


196 posted on 08/12/2005 12:03:23 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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Where I get my haircut, a friend who works there said they are not allowed to speak Vietnamese. (As far as I know, that's the only language native to employees besides English.) I thought it was a silly rule to ban it completely, as long as they weren't intimidating customers.


241 posted on 08/12/2005 1:35:43 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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