Posted on 08/11/2005 10:20:18 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
Exactly!
We had a big fight over public easements on private property, since you will be named in a lawsuit if someone stubs their toe on your patch of land. We asked the county and state, how will you protect us from these types of lawsuits ? Their answer was, we can't. So we said then you'll have to buy the property too, whereupon they started to cry poor.
I had a neighbor farmer who was sued , along with the phone company, the electric company, and the state, when a yahoo went off the road and hit a utility pole on this farmer's land. The farmer was finally excused from the lawsuit, but not until after he paid his lawyer in excess of $10,000 for his defense.
Who needs the aggravation and expense ?
There is the principle, too. With a public access easement any yahoo can drive their bulldozer down there and if you don't like the noise and dust and complain they will whip out a hunting license or just start talking about their rights. This could all be clarified by either dedicating the easements or abandoning them. That would my first act as Pres if I ever accidently get that office. Rightwhale Executive Order #1. I have a plan for that afternoon, too. Doesn't hurt to be prepared.
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Amen to every word you posted. I know exactly what you mean. Whenever someone passes me because I'm to far over to the right I'm always mad at myself for not taking the whole lane and making them treat me like a car.
Thanks. In your case I understand. I believe in private property rights above all else.
Ditto on all of that except that with 7 or our 8 kids still living at home we still have to use the car more than we'd like. But it's great that the kids learn at a young age that bikes are not toys but are tools for transportation. They love the independence they get without having to buy a car. We warn them a lot of the evils of owning a car and being a slave to payments, insurance, maintenance, gas prices and laziness.
We teach the kids to use the sidewalk, but pedestrians have their rights of way. Adults bicycle on the streets, and the only risk is idiots who swing open their car doors without looking. As a driver, I consider anyone who swings open a car door into traffic without looking to be an idiot.
Yes but as a biker, getting "doored" hurts, from what I hear. I have read that streets are safer than sidewalks but I know that to be dependent on the particular street vs the particular sidewalk.
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"Now I get a little bit out into the lane, forcing them to treat me like a car."
As one cyclist to another:
You are playing Russian Roullette, with total strangers. You have no idea, if one of them is nuts, and decides to run you down. Or simply doesn't see you.
I went through the stage where I was going to show those darn car drivers a thing or two. Show them we both were equally entitled to use the roads.
Then at some moment, rational thought kicked in. I asked myself what price I was willing to pay, to prove this point?
My bike and I reach nearly 200 lbs. Most vehicles these days exceed 3,000 lbs. Factoring in rate of travel, I am disadvantaged.
I use bike trails whenever possible. On streets I never press for my "equal entitlement."
Didn't work that way in Minnesota. This excerpt is from
http://www.mnbiketrails.com/main.asp?SectionID=22&SubSectionID=45&ArticleID=176&TM=34786.09
""Paul Bunyan Trail dispute settled
Court case overturned
Rail-to-Trails joined the fight
The Minnesota Supreme Court reversed the Court of Appeals in a landmark decision that significantly advances the cause of converting abandoned railroad lines into recreation trails.
The Supreme Court held in State of Minnesota vs. Hess et al that certain key properties included in the Paul Bunyan State Trail did not revert to the abutting property owners once the railroad line on which the trail was constructed ceased to be used for railroad purposes.""
No it seems the conditions were different. My deed, and those of the others affected in my situation, were specifically an easement. In PA, however, we had to prove that the railroad had formally completed the abandonment process before we could reclaim the right-of-way.
It seems like these people should challenged the 1947 law to be a taking, or should file suit against their title companies, to get redress. Not being a lawyer, I don't know if any of that is feasible, however.
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