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NYT: 9/11 Commission's Staff Rejected Report on Early Identification of Chief Hijacker
New York Times ^ | August 11, 2005 | DOUGLAS JEHL and PHILIP SHENON

Posted on 08/11/2005 5:54:43 AM PDT by OESY

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To: blackie

What is all this going to do to Lee Hamilton's so called good reputation. LOL


41 posted on 08/11/2005 7:44:09 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: OESY

How about John Ashcroft's live TV testimony, before the 911 Commission of pimps of the election industry? Independent of blaming this on the staff who "Didn't Tell Us", were you at all listening to what John Ashcroft was saying or did you only have him testify as a PR move?


42 posted on 08/11/2005 7:49:01 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: OESY

Please folks, be reasonable. Why would the commission looking into the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks consider it significant that intelligence data that mentioned Mohammed Atta by name might have existed. The commission was convened to see if any intelligence data existed concerning the hijackers. What did ATTA have to do with all that?

Are we really overdoing it? Are we expecting a commission to connect dots that loosely connected together?

Let's be honest, the name ATTA shouldn't have necessarily have raised any hackles in connection with this investigation. It would be just such a remote association. Besides, before this commission met, who had ever heard of Mohammed ATTA.

</sarcasm>


44 posted on 08/11/2005 8:21:09 AM PDT by putupjob
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To: conservative in nyc
So far, there's no proof of a link between the Sandy Burgling and the Able Danger al-Qaeda organization chart. According to April press reports, Sandy burgled five drafts of the Richard Clarke millennium "after action review" from early 2000, and his handwritten notes on those reports. The Able Danger chart including Atta wasn't put together until the summer of 2000. So Sandy couldn't have burgled the chart, unless it was created earlier or the MSM's reporting is otherwise wrong.

Able Danger WAS looking into al-Qaeda links since 1999. So it's possible that information other than the chart could have made its way into the burgled after-action report.

Just because the finished Able Danger chart postdates the documents Berger stole doesn't mean that the information wasn't all there as text. Too, I'm not convinced that press reports accurately reflect what was stolen.

I think the widely accepted "fact" that each of the stolen documents were from Richard Clarke's after-action report on the foiled Millenium bombing plot is misleading. The whole thing always struck me as typically clintonesque, sleight of hand misdirection.

Initial reports described the stolen documents as dealing with the terrorism threat at the turn of the millenium. That encompasses any document dealing with terrorism in 1999-2000. Seamlessly, the lower-case millenium morphs to a capital M, and voila, it's assumed that it's Clarke's report at issue. I think this was intentional.

Because the facts of the case are sealed, we have only the circle jerk reporting of the MSM confirming each others' take on what exactly was stolen.

As I said here at the time the theft occurred, Berger would not have undertaken such an extraordinarily risky mission merely to prevent embarrassment over the LA Millenium plot. The facts of that incident were already known. Clinton and his administration had already survived it. No, it had to have been something radioactive--something as yet unknown and off-the-charts damaging. Mohammed Atta's name in a 1999 or early 2000 document fits the bill.

Sandy Berger was supposed to have been sentenced July 8th in a curiously lenient plea agreement whose terms include a requirement that he cooperate in the investigation. That sentencing has been postponed. So either Berger has not cooperated, or his cooperation is still needed and ongoing.

45 posted on 08/11/2005 8:35:09 AM PDT by Eroteme
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To: Tsunamii
Who knew that WHOA....TMI was an actual position that could be adopted on the 9/11 panel??
47 posted on 08/11/2005 8:45:18 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: pepperhead

He'll just say that it's all new to him. :)


48 posted on 08/11/2005 9:31:58 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: OESY
Al Felzenberg, who served as the commission's chief spokesman, said earlier this week that staff members who were briefed about Able Danger at a first meeting, in October 2003, did not remember hearing anything about Mr. Atta or an American terrorist cell. On Wednesday, however, Mr. Felzenberg said the uniformed officer who briefed two staff members in July 2004 had indeed mentioned Mr. Atta....

Unbelieveable! NOW he remembers it, eh?

They discounted the information because it didn't "mesh" with the Clinton's idea of the "truth".

Rush is discussing this story now.

49 posted on 08/11/2005 10:19:14 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Senator Kunte Klinte
9/11 COMMISSION IGNORED KEY FACTS ON HIJACKERS
By Michelle Malkin · August 11, 2005 07:44 AM


The 9/11 Commission was supposed to give the America people a complete, unbiased story of the government failures that led up to the September 11 terrorist attacks. But the Commission now admits its acclaimed Final Report ignored key information provided by a U.S. Army data mining project, Able Danger, which identified Mohammed Atta and several other hijackers as potential terrorists prior to the September 11 attacks. The Able Danger team recommended that Atta and the other suspected terrorists be deported. That recommendation, however, was not shared with law enforcement officials, presumably because of the "wall" between intelligence activities and domestic law enforcement.

According to the New York Times, the 9/11 Commission officials said that Able Danger had not been included in their report because some of the information sounded inconsistent with what they thought they knew about Atta.

In other words, the Commission staffers were told about the project but ignored it because it didn't fit their pre-conceived conclusions.

Fortunately, the Commission has now 'fessed up. But not before trying to avoid blame earlier this week. Lee Hamilton, one of the Commission's co-chairs, said:

The Sept. 11 commission did not learn of any U.S. government knowledge prior to 9/11 of surveillance of Mohammed Atta or of his cell," said Hamilton, a former Democratic congressman from Indiana. "Had we learned of it obviously it would've been a major focus of our investigation."
Ed Morrissey, who has been following the story closely, comments on the Commission's blame-avoidance techniques and speculates as to why Able Danger was excluded from the Commission's report:

First we hear that no such [briefing] occurred. After that, the Commission says one might have occurred in October 2003 but that no one remembered it. Now we find out that the Commission had two meetings where [they] heard about Able Danger and its identification of Mohammed Atta, including one just before they completed their report. Instead of saying to themselves, "Hey, wait a minute -- this changes the picture substantially," and postponing the report until they could look further into Able Danger, they simply shrugged their shoulders and published what they had.
Why? Able Danger proved that at least some of the intelligence work done by the US provided the information that could have helped prevent or at least reduce the attacks on 9/11. They had identified the ringleader of the conspiracy as a terrorist agent, even if they didn't know what mission he had at the time.

What does that mean for the Commission's findings? It meant that the cornerstone of their conclusions no longer fit the facts. Able Danger showed that the US had enough intelligence to take action -- if the government had allowed law enforcement and intelligence operations to cooperate with each other. It also showed that data mining could effectively identify terrorist agents.

So what did the Commission do? It ignored those facts which did not fit within its predetermined conclusions. It never bothered to mention Able Danger even one time in its final report, even though that absolutely refuted the notion that the government had no awareness that Atta constituted a terrorist threat. It endorsed the idea of data mining (which would die in Congress as the Total Information Awareness program) without ever explaining why. And while the Clinton policy of enforcing a quarantine between law enforcement and intelligence operations came under general criticism, their report never included the fact that the "wall" for which Commission member Jamie S. Gorelick had so much responsibility specifically contributed to Atta's ability to come and go as he pleased, building the teams that would kill almost 3,000 Americans.


Morrissey expanded on the latter point in an earlier post:

Why didn't the Commission press harder for military intelligence, and if the Times' source has told the truth, why did they ignore the Able Danger operation in their deliberations? It would emphasize that the problem was not primarily operational, as the Commission made it seem, but primarily political -- and that the biggest problem was the enforced separation between law enforcement and intelligence operations upon which the Clinton Department of Justice insisted. The hatchet person for that policy sat on the Commission itself: Jamie S. Gorelick.
We will be hearing much more about this story. For blogger reactions, check out Morrissey, The Jawa Report, Baldilocks, Just One Minute, and The Anchoress. For more on Gorelick's conflict of interest, see here, here, and here.

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Updates:

Jim Geraghty says Able Danger may be one of the biggest stories to come down the pike in awhile. He's right. And check out Geraghty's takedown of 9/11 Commission's work:

[A]s for the 9/11 Commission, after all that patting themselves on the back, all that gushing praise from left, right, and center, after their work was called "miraculous" by Newsday, and the nomination for a National Book Award, and calling their own work "extraordinary"... man, these guys stink. Really, if this checks out, and the staffers had information like this and they disregarded it, never believing that we in the public deserved to know that the plot's ringleader was identified, located and recommended to be arrested a year before the attacks... boy, these guys ought to be in stocks in the public square and have rotten fruit thrown at them. What a sham.

More at Villainous Company: "The Farce Continues"
50 posted on 08/11/2005 10:32:17 AM PDT by OESY
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To: conservativecorner

sweet.


51 posted on 08/11/2005 3:43:09 PM PDT by bitt ('We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.' Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: bitt

Thanks bitt, interesting stuff!


52 posted on 08/11/2005 6:45:46 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: randog
1) How can the 911 commissioners claim that they don't remember meeting with DOD officials? Didn't they keep meeting notes, or did they write the entire 911 Report from memory?

It was 9/11 staffers who met with the DOD officials. But they evidently didn't tell the 9/11 commissioners about the meetings.

2) Why did they choose to delete any references of Able Danger from the report? Why not mention it, even if it went against their other "facts"?

It was 9/11 staffers who wrote the 9/11 report. The commissioners approved and signed it.

The 9/11 staffer who seems most complicit in all this was Dietrich Snell, a Special Counsel and Team Leader for the 9/11 commission.

Snell, a Democrat operative (I use the word advisedly), was a Deputy AG of New York State. He also had some dirty laundry of his own that he was anxious to cover up. He prosecuted one of the Bojinka planners, then refused to negotiate a plea deal when Murad wanted to turn state's evidence and implicate his fellow plotters who intended to "fly a plane into CIA's Langley headquarters".

53 posted on 08/11/2005 7:07:14 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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