Posted on 08/10/2005 6:24:25 PM PDT by aculeus
The discovery was made by Sergei Kirpotin at Tomsk State University in western Siberia and Judith Marquand at Oxford University and is reported in New Scientist today.
Dr Kirpotin told the magazine the situation was an "ecological landslide that is probably irreversible and is undoubtedly connected to climatic warming". He added that the thaw had probably begun in the past three or four years.
"This is a big deal because you can't put the permafrost back once it's gone. The causal effect is human activity and it will ramp up temperatures even more than our emissions are doing."
So it formed 11,000 years ago at the end of the last ice age, about the same time that the caucasoid Kenniwick Man appeared in North America. hmmmmm, think of that.
And Kerpotin just discovered that this has been happening for 3 or 4 years? Don't people live in Sibe ria that would have noticed right away?
Kerpotin says, "undoubtedly connected to climatic warming". Undoubtedly? "The causal effect is human activity." Undoubtedly!
Perhaps mother earth is only now reversing the damage Kenniwick Man caused.
http://www.heartland.org/archives/environment/apr02/humans.htm
Humans bring end to Ice Age disasters
by S. Fred Singer Ph.D.
During an Internet debate in February [2002], federal climatologist Michael McCracken (not a global warming skeptic) revealed that rising CO2 concentrations may have banished forever the disastrous Ice Ages that have bedeviled the Earth for the past few million years.
Scientists generally credit human activities, especially fossil fuel burning, for the atmospheric build-up of CO2. Plants need CO2, and synthesize their food from it.
So humans appear to be saving the planet not only from disastrously low levels of CO2 (which atmospheric concentrations approached at one point in the past few hundred thousand years), but also from the scourge of Ice Ages that have dominated climate for the most recent few million years.
Many moons. Long enough to see the entire transition from the global cooling scare to the present global warming scare.
The warming trend seems to be particularly intense in Siberia. The polar ice cap in summer now almost totally withdraws from the north Siberian coast, except in one spot. Soon in summer, it may become a navigable water way.
The best scene is when the dumbass ultra-liberal loudmouth Hollyweird actor who "plays the President on TV" is eaten by cannibals.
Too bad they won't be making a movie of this book.
lol! it's bush's fault ping
I'm sure they'd just hate it if their temperatures got above freezing in the winter. We are supposed to worry about this?
You don't hear about it because the enviro's can't further their political agenda if Bush didn't do it.
If I was a young man I would love to move there especially since it seems to warming up.
Ah, they really won't have a Summer, but a Mud season?
It's too darned hot right now. 78 in the shade. Even the mosquitoes are sheltering in the tall grass.
"The Polar Ice Caps are Melting" story comes out every few months. Some expedition goes out and measures the sea ice at some location they already have data from 5, 10 years ago for example and surprise, they announce with much fanfare, that the ice is 20% thinner than it was when they last measured it.
(Sometimes these guys are just kooks by the way. One highly noted study comes from a zoology professor who was working on a cruise ship lol.)
Anyway, here is a link to the latest animation from NASA's ICESat satellite of the North Pole sea ice (the best you will see) 1979 to 2004.
The polar ice moves back and forth so much and moves so much with the seasons that only a long-long-long-term satellite study with radar measurements can tell you anything at all.
If you can tell Siberia's polar ice is melting, let me know.
http://www.nasa.gov/mpeg/103496main_sea_ice2004_320x240.mpeg
I agree. Permafrost is a terrible thing to build on. Heated building tend to melt the ground under their foundations and then sink. Agriculture is immossible on permafrost. Once it stabilizes, the whole region will be more accessible for exploitation. If global warming happens like they worry about, then the northwest passage will be open for shipping and reduce shipping times by not needing the Panama Canal as much.
Great link, but you see lately it has receded. Here is a little anecdote. My brother has been doing bird tours in Barrow, Nome and St. Lawrence Island for about 20 years, in June. He hasn't seen any ice for about 10 years, and it was all ice before then.
It may indeed be thawing in places but for how long have records been kept ? Could it be something that happens every so often or is it truly a new event ?
Because then it would not be Bush's fault.
It would not be the United States fault.
You could not make a moonbat religion of fear out of that explanation.
Nor would it be profitable to tell the truth or use common-sense because moonbat religious tithing would be reduced.
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