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To: Frank_Discussion; iconoclast

Actually, that was a similar situation in my family. My paternal grandmother's family could have passed for Aryans (blond, blue eyed and the men are quite tall). Which shielded them from quite a bit of anti-semitism.

The quote earlier by James Lileks (But they're not anti-Semites. Heavens, nay. Don't you dare question their philosemitism! No, they looked at the entire world, including countries that lop off your skull if you convert to Presbyterianism, and what did they choose as the object of their ire? A country the size of a potato chip hanging on the edge of a region noted for despotism and barbarity. By some peculiar coincidence, it happens to be full of Jews.) explains why overwhelming hatred and resentment of Israel often overlaps with anti-semitism.

At the same time, cry 'anti-semitism' is a little bit like crying wolf. Which is not to say that wolves don't exist, or aren't a serious problem. But if you see every shadow of a wolf, sooner or later most people will stop believing you. And as a Jew, that's a big concern for me. Cindy Sheehan's views are certainly disturbing, even offensive, to me.

I would like to know why Iconoclast aligns himself with Cindy Sheehan. But I'm going to hold off on calling him an anti-semite for the time being.


914 posted on 08/11/2005 11:11:37 AM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: Alexander Rubin
I can't see myself showing the same restraint as you. Cindy Sheehan says we waged war at the behest of the state of Israel, the Jewish homeland, I would call that antisemitic. Not the final antisemitism of calling Jews inferior and animals worthy of gassing and experimentation, but it does lump international Jewry together and blames them for the ills of the world.

For Iconoclast to agree with her philosophically, even on the single issue of the Iraq campaign, indicates to me a certain level of antisemitism. I don't see how it can't. It certainly isn't PROSemitism!
920 posted on 08/11/2005 11:21:16 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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