[Age of Reason]

And how could we have done that? We cannot shut ourselves off from the petroleum market.

I think we could have.

Being dependent on imported oil was a new thing--until around 1960 or 1970, most of our oil was domestic.

All we needed to do was stop wasting energy, lessen demand for energy by ending population growth from immigration, and develop alternative energy sources--which could have been as simple as bicycles or as complex as fusion reactors.

We could not ignore the Soviet threat.

The Soviet Union was much less of a threat than we thought.

[rmlew]

Being dependent on imported oil was a new thing--until around 1960 or 1970, most of our oil was domestic.
There was a world-wide market for oil. WE were first a net exporter, and then as we used more gas and pumped less, we became an importer.

All we needed to do was stop wasting energy, lessen demand for energy by ending population growth from immigration, and develop alternative energy sources--which could have been as simple as bicycles or as complex as fusion reactors.
So we should have used the government to force changes of behavior on the American people (ie taxing oil).

The Soviet Union was much less of a threat than we thought.
Tell that to the people they enslaved.
I see no reason why they should not have continued to expand, if we did not confron them starting in 1947.

You seem to be Agrarian, not a Jeffersonian. Are you a fan of Russell Weaver?

[nopardons]

Keep right in talking, Chairman Mao!

When are you going to suggest the need for RE-EDUCATION CAMPS?