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To: Alexander Rubin

"so it's not likely that people will choose NOT to live in cities."

They have no choice but to live in cities. They can't go back to an agrarian society. It all started with the Industrial Revolution, I believe, when people were forced into cities for the benefit of the industrialist.

I, for one, will be more than happy to move to an urban/country setting, but do not have the wherewithall to do so. It's an excellent way, though, to avoid the tyranny of multiculturalism and diversity mumbo-jumbo.


684 posted on 08/10/2005 9:22:36 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences.)
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To: TAquinas
You need help!

Lots of people live in cities because THEY LIKE IT THERE.

Nobody was ever "forced" to live in a city by "industrialist".

The more your post, the more of your Marxist views are on display.

You really should read the true history, of what living in a preindustrial America was like. Believe me, it was NOT all beer and skittles and people, for the most part, were absolutely miserable! Their lives were lonely, hard, harsh, and uncomfortable. You wouldn't last a week!

And since you are so desirous of "avoiding the tyranny of multiculturalism and diversity mumbo-jumbo", I suggest that you ho join some crazy white supremacist group, where you'll fit right in.

710 posted on 08/10/2005 9:50:59 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: TAquinas

First of all, the country won't save you from multiculturalism and diversity if everyone moves out to the country. Secondly, the country has disadvantages. It's hard to run a modern society with a rural based population. Thirdly, we could get rid of the liberal tyranny problem by agreeing on a list of demands, then putting in legislators who enact them.

When you say wherewithal, I assume you mean money. Since you said you would be 'more than happy' to, let's assume that money is the only problem. Country living is relatively cheap. I know a place that's selling (or it was fairly recently), 100+ acres, a nice farmhouse (probably 2500 square feet;beautiful Edwardian style) and a barn, for about 99k Canadian and change. You can go for a smaller property or even more wild and pay even less.

I've seen small houses in the Canadian country for as low as 8k, and decent places for as low as 30k. So money shouldn't be the issue if you really want to do it.

I love the country myself. But I don't think that moving to the country is some sort of fantastic utopian solution. It has its own advantages, and its own problems, just like cities.

Also, people were never FORCED into cities in the industrial revolution (as far as I know) . They chose to go there, for many reasons. The industrial revolution was a product of circumstance, not design. Urbanization was a consequence, not a policy.


713 posted on 08/10/2005 9:54:08 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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