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To: Alexander Rubin

Don't you think Cindy Sheehan is anti-Semitic? Iconclast said he agrees with her emphatically.

Sheehan says we are not in Iraq for our interests but because of Israel. She says we were attacked on 9/11 because of our Middle East policy and that if Israel were out of Palestine, there would be no terrorism.

Do you agree with that? How is that not anti-Semitic? How is it different from what OBL and the other Islamic extremists say?


588 posted on 08/10/2005 7:09:36 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill

Cindy Sheehan actually might be anti-semitic. Being virulently and unfairly anti-Israel is not NECESSARILy anti-Semitic. She might be, though, from the vitriol of her rants. And the neoconservative perjorative doublespeak. But we haven't seen much evidence beyond a crazy, fickle and stupid woman ranting about Israel out of Palestine. I know Jews who want Israel out of Palestine (family members in fact). While I think they are shortsighted, stupid and just trying to go along with a lefty crowd, they are not necessarily anti-Semitic either.

Iconoclast is not necessarily anti-semitic either. I strongly disagree with his position on Israel, but I refrain judgement. Also, tossing that label around so freely when it's not necessarily deserved, or before its proven, weakens its power. There IS anti-semitism out there. Calling so many people anti-Semitic, especially when many of them aren't, is not a smart strategm.

Personally, for the most part I support the settlers. I don't think Israel has anything more to do with terrorism than showing more Arab weakness and thus becoming a rallying cry. They also see its modernity as a threat. But, I respect with other people's intellectual disagreements with me on this, and most other issues.

I think Noam Chomsky is a spiteful, meanspirited, vindictive, shortsighted and egotistical little dick. I disagree with him on almost everything. I don't think he's an anti-Semite even though he REALLY really hates Israel.

Anti-semitism is a hatred, resentment or dislike of Jews as a people, culture of whatnot because they are Jews. I dislike particular Jews, though I am a Jew myself. But David Duke? David Duke IS an anti-semite. Hitler was an anti-semite. Canada's prime minister during WWII was an anti-semite. I can go on. Don't misuse the word, though. It's not just any old slur.

It's like calling people racists. We, as conservatives and men (and women) of integrity, must be careful to be accurate in our language. Call racists racist. Call anti-semites anti-semites. Don't call anyone who disagrees with a position of diversity and multicultural crap a racist, or anyone who says black street gangs or illegal Mexican immigration or fundamentalist Muslim terrorism are problems racists. Likewise, not everyone who wants Israel out of Palestine are anti-semites, though quite a few are. In the same way, not even everyone who disagrees with the legitimacy of Israel are anti-semites (though I believe most of those probably are).

Just be careful is what I am saying. Be careful in who you are calling what.

We disagree with Iconoclast, well, let's argue with him. Let's not call him names. Let's show him why Israel's existence is necessary, and why pulling out of 'Palestine' probably won't bring peace.


600 posted on 08/10/2005 7:22:59 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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