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Posted on 08/10/2005 6:13:35 AM PDT by stuckinNY-NJ
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To: sitetest
Pirro will get 37% against Hillary. Pro-life conservative John Spencer will get 47% or above. Why? Because every one of the last 5 GOPers to run statewide in NYS who were also pro-life and conservative received at least 47%. It is a mistake to think that NYS is a liberal state. It is a Democrat state. Learn about the role minor parties have in NYS. No GOPer can win without the Conservative Party support
To: stuckinNY-NJ
I dunno...Giuliani and Pataki have been successful, and they certainly can't claim to be conservatives. Give Pirro a chance. She is electable, with good on-camera 'presence'.
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To: Baynative
Hillary may actually switch allegiance to another Major League Baseball team if necessary!!
To: TommyDale
Rudy ran in NYC which is different from the state as a whole. In fact a big part of why he did not run in 2000 was because it was clear the Conservative Party would not back him.
As for Pataki when he ran in 1994, he was PRO-LIFE until a not so public conversion in 1994, has was also pro-second amendment. HE was supported by the Conservative Party of NY and he move to the left almost caused him to loose the Conservative Party backing 2002. It is easy to see the you don't understand NYS politics
To: TommyDale
"Who Cares"... You're right that is about the only difference between the two. She and Bubba can hit the international travel circus since they can't seem to get out of the public eye. I'd like like to see her defeated. I'm sure she already has the attack dogs waiting. Should be a rotweiller hillary-dog attack ping
To: stuckinNY-NJ
This contest is in New York, for heaven's sake. Who do you expect too find --- another Goldwater??
To: stuckinNY-NJ
I understand NYS politics well enough that they would vote for any slimy, carpetbagging liberal puke who ran as a Democrat. Just look at their history, starting with Robert F. Kennedy. Probably even before that, but that was the first taste of NY politics for me. I have no respect for New York voters, any more than I do for Florida voters. They all come from the same mold.
To: newfrpr04
No GOPer who runs for statewide office receives less than 47%. When pro-choice GOPers run, the get trounced, with exception of Pataki who wsa pro-life going into his first campaign in 1994. A Pro-life Conservative will come closest to beatin her, killing her off for 2008
To: stuckinNY-NJ
If the Senator from New York is going to be Pro-Abortion, why not have Pirro instead of Hillary. Perhaps after 6 years of Pirro New Yorkers will be ready for a real republican.
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posted on
08/10/2005 6:47:45 AM PDT
by
msnimje
To: stuckinNY-NJ
This press release is surely designed for no other purpose than to divide repubs or at least keep them home for Pierro and promote Hillary for the Pres. (beyond this Senate race).
Pierro never tried to socialize much of the US economy--Hilliary did. I would rather see Sharpton replace Hillary as NY Senator than see Hillary anointed in a Senate reelction and automoatically set up to be Pres. in '08. and Pierro is no Sharpton when it come to duffus-agenda politics.
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posted on
08/10/2005 6:54:20 AM PDT
by
rod1
To: stuckinNY-NJ
Hillary Clinton got 43% of the upstate (North of Putnam and Ulster Counties) vote in 2000. Kerry got 70% of the NYC vote and beat the President in Nassau, Suffolk, and Westchester counties.
NY government is indebted to the public employee unions like my own UFT and the AFCSME to the point where the Governor and Legislature no longer have the power of independent thought In the last eight years "conservative" George Pataki never encountered a spending plan he didn't accept. He bought off Rivera and the Hospital workers of 1199 and increased Medicaid spending by a third.
New York may not be a moonbat state from Montauk to Erie County, but it's a liberal big government state and a conservative of the type celebrated here on Free Republic would get enough votes to garner the fourth row on the ballot in the next election.
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posted on
08/10/2005 6:55:39 AM PDT
by
xkaydet65
(Peace, Love, Brotherhood, and Firepower. And the greatest of these is Firepower!)
To: msnimje
read my post to newfrpr04
Pirro won't crack 37%
To: xkaydet65
I agree with every thing you wrote, except. Pataki WAS a conservative in 1994. The people who voted for him thought he was conservative. Lazio, although fairly conservative in the House didn't run as one against Hillary. He ran the race about campaign finance reform. Remember the stupid pledge stunt from the Hillary-Lazio debate?
As for winning places like Erie County, pro-life John Faso won there for Comptroller in 2002, as did Vacco the former AG. The baseline vote for a prolife conservative GOPer in NYS is 47%. Pirro will run about 15% points better than Mills. Which is about 37%
To: TommyDale
Thats true plus she will make the beast spend money.
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posted on
08/10/2005 7:05:43 AM PDT
by
Unicorn
(Too many wimps around.)
To: stuckinNY-NJ
Rudy ran in NYC which is different from the state as a whole. In fact a big part of why he did not run in 2000 was because it was clear the Conservative Party would not back him. As for Pataki when he ran in 1994, he was PRO-LIFE until a not so public conversion in 1994, has was also pro-second amendment. HE was supported by the Conservative Party of NY and he move to the left almost caused him to loose the Conservative Party backing 2002. It is easy to see the you don't understand NYS politics.
Thanks for the giggles. You forget that Rudy did start to run in 2000, but then dropped out of the race, and it had nothing to do with not getting the Conservative Party backing. Both the Conservative Party and Liberal Party in New York State are strictly for-profit operations. Their backing is for sale to the highest bidder, whether or not they have true conservative/liberal credentials.
There is no question that Pataki is a liberal. And to say that NYC (which has been run by liberal Republicans since 1994) is different from the rest of the state is disengenuous, since that's where the majority of the votes for statewide offices comes from. I believe the last conservative to hold a statewide office in New York was attorney general Dennis Vacco, who was swept into office in 1994 on Pataki's Republican coattails and was promptly swept out of office four years later by Eliot Spitzer.
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posted on
08/10/2005 7:08:37 AM PDT
by
drjimmy
To: ICE-FLYER
One major reason I want Jeanine Pirro to beat HRC is so HRC will no longer have Senate immunity against lawsuits and indictments, which is the primary reason she sought political office.
To: drjimmy
That is right and Vacco listened to the other moderate GOPers in 1998 when he refused the Right to Life line. Vacco lost that election by less than the total Right to Life vote.
As for Rudy, your ignorance is stunning. As someone who was there in the rooms, Rudy wasn't going to get the Conservative Party line. No how about refuting what I am telling you no pro-life conservative GOP candidate has garnered less than 47%. Brush up on NYS politics
To: varina davis
37% Pirro won't crack 37%
Calling the Club for Growth. Hopefully a well funded Conservative can be found to take this woman on in the primary.
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