[Ferris]

Of course not. Valuing is a function of consciousness.

Exactly.. Therefore, if no consciousness, then no value... No meaning..

But you made contradictory statements before. You said the crab nebula would still be there AND there would be nothing. But the crab nebula clearly is something, which is not nothing. So you said there would be nothing and not nothing.

No, I was speaking figuratively..

"Nothing" as in, of no value, or no meaning... Not as in, non existent..

It's still there, it's just meaningless and valueless..

[beavus]

Sounds like we are in total agreement. That is a very unusual experience for me.