[rob777]

Regardless of which position you support (and I am sure there will be new theories-suppositions-hypotheses in the future long after we are dead and gone) it always come down to the basic questions of life.

Who are we? Where are we? What are we? Why do we exist? How were we created? Who or what created us. And who created the creator?







I hope that there will be new theories, etc., though I am concerned by attempts to limit the debate. I tend to support the Intelligent Design side for the same reason Aristotle did, it seems more reasonable. The problem is that, when one side tries to stifle the debate by insisting on an exclusive hearing for their theory, honest debate is short changed and the pursuit of knowledge suffers. I do not care if it is Creationists silencing Evolutionists, or Evolutionists, silencing Intelligent Design theorists, it harms the disinterested pursuit of knowledge.

[js1138]

It is always reasonable to challenge accepted theories, but that is not what ID is doing.

ID is challenging the premise that science can search for natural causes. It is basically saying that something has the appearance of design it cannot possibly have arisen from natural processes.

It is not simply about who is right and who is wrong. It is about procedure. How do we investigate things that are currently unexplained.

The procedures of scientific research assume that natural causes can be found. I don't know what procedures ID suggests because the leaders of the movement have admitted having no research program. I suspect they can never have a research program, because once you assume a supernatural cause, you have ended curiosity.

[Kokojmudd]

"Who are we? Where are we? What are we? Why do we exist? How were we created? Who or what created us. And who created the creator?"



Wait a cotton pickin minute. We are grown up germs, sitting on the cog of one wheel of a vast cosmic machine, that is destined ultimately to blow itself up. Our origin is, as a grown up germ.... we come from meaninglessness.... from nothingness,... and our ultimate destiny is annihilation.