Posted on 08/09/2005 5:38:56 AM PDT by Chuck54
Yes.
Was he obligated to take the case? Would it have harmed his career if he hadn't?
Obligated? Probably not. But when you're a junior partner at a law firm, do you say "no" to a senior partner who asks you to lend a few hours (I've read 6 hours was the extent of Roberts' work) assistance?
Again, if it were not donated time, then I could see it. But I want to know why these people received free legal services, AND why Roberts was willing to give of his valuable time. Six hours of his time equals quite a large cash donation to the cause. They are entitled to representation and a fair hearing, but no one has to donate their servies.
Keep one thing in mind and that's the Republican presidents and their party has a record of selling out the Hight Court the Democrats to get the bills they want passed for big business.
Don't think for a minute they didn't know what Souter was.
This is why their record on these appointment billion more than he asked for]ts are so bad.
Bush just got CAFTA, a bloated Energy Bill Which do nothing but put money in the pockets of big business.
He didn't have enough support on either side all year to get it passed and now all of a sudden the Democrats quit fighting and he gets a couple of judges on the lower courts picks a relative unknown one that looks like he going to slide through meat grinder gets his controversial bills passed all at once.
Then they say the reason Roberts is probably going to make is because his record and character is so good that the democrats can't attack it. Since when did that stop them?
This may explain why Republicans wanted Specter to stay as chairman when millions of their voters wanted his head. They wanted someone they could deal with and keep those on the committee that might object to their deals and sellouts in the name of the almighty business dollar under control.
Watch what happens with Bush immigration bill he wants passed that has to come through Specter.
Now also we have Frisk pushing government funding for stem cell research for [another corporate welfare for business interests] and one that has to come through Specter's committee which he wants, is strongly in favor of and has be pushing. There are deals being cut and supporters being sold out.
I'm afraid the Democrats are going to keep the balance on the top court and big business is going to get their cheap labor and advance their global agenda and once again it is the people who are going to lose and foot the bill for all of it.
They are going pay for it with losses in jobs, freedoms, national soverignty, and with our borders like they are phsysical and financial security.
Well you offered terms of surrender without a fight or reasons given. I'm sure I'm entitled to offer to fight the good fight without explaining my position.
But when Janice Rogers Brown has already been confirmed, when Bill Pryor has already been confirmed, when Emilio Garza was confirmed years ago -- hey, the Democrats and RINOs are certainly welcome to b**** and moan as much as they want to but the fact is it's like dealing with children -- if you're firm with them they'll do what you want, if you cater to them every time they pitch a fit you're letting them rule you. There's half a dozen Democrat senators who would be torpedoing their reelection chances by defeating a conservative Supreme Court nominee. We have them over a barrel. And you want to surrender.
Yes, that's cowardice.
That's all I asked, that you explain your position. Although I don't agree with everything you said you make some good points. I'm optimistic that Roberts is going to be confirmed and will be on the side of Scalia and Thomas 90% of the time (including pro-life and 2nd Amendment issues). I guess that's where you and I disagree. We will both have to wait and see...
I don't disagree there. But I really don't like the emphasis on "confirmability" -- because that's defining your selection based on who the liberals want. What if 51 Senators demanded any nominee be an outspoken supporter of abortion on demand? The onus should not be on Bush to pick a nominee they like, it should be on them to accept the president's pick or risk the consequences. Ceding control based on confirmability defined by your opponents is terrible, self-defeating politics.
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That's exactly the type of info I was hoping to get. All I had heard was that he was doing "his job".
I still would like additinal info. What was his reasoning. I would hate to think that this a smoke screen put up by the left to divide the conservative base.
Who?
Public Advocate of the United States
What?
Well, AmishDude Enterprises (Motto: "Embezzlement for a better tomorrow.") wholeheartedly approves of John Roberts. Moreover, ADE is currently receiving donations of obscene sums of money that would roll in, if only Yahoo! News would mention us.
I would have to think that his reasoning must have been that he was being a team player within the firm...which is understandable enough, especially when you are making that kind of money (and also contemplating going back into public life such that you know the opportunity to make money is limited).
His behavior is in that context quite understandable.
But it is not heroic. The heroic thing to do would have been to decline to paricipate and if pressured, to resign. I can imagine Antonin Scalia as a lawyer doing that. But he's a rare breed. I guess we have to be realists here and recognize that Roberts is a flesh and blood human being and he probably in a moment of moral weakness wanted to e a team player more than he wanted to make a firm stand. It has also occurred to me that if he HAD quit the firm over this issue, then he would likely be disqualified from ever having become a judge. In a sense, then, he was in a Catch-22. Quit the firm, AND never become a judge. Or, do the work quietly and effectively....and then repay the liberals once you are safely on the bench.
I sure hope the latter case is how it worked. I have mellowed a bit on this over the last few days, trying to see things from his perspective. It could go either way.
I guess if nothing else, that is what one is asking for by going to a large firm.
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