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Posted on 08/08/2005 8:54:06 PM PDT by neverdem
I tend to agree with you - while I can see the points made regarding the history of alcohol and all, I live in Meth-Capital, USA in Oregon and have seen firsthand the horrendous damage addiction to that drug can do. My sister-in-law prostituted her children (all under age 10) to get a hold of the drug! Once addicted, do you think it would have really made a difference *where* she bought it, from a pusher or a local Safeway. She'd still do anything to get the money for it. JMHO
(BTW, above-mentioned children are now safe, though in intense therapy, and sister-in-law is walking the streets somewhere still hunting for her next fix, despite years in and out of rehab on the states dime)
"Using drugs," he wrote, "is wrong not simply because drugs create medical problems; it is wrong because drugs destroy one's moral sense. People addicted to drugs neglect their duties."
For the sake of argument, let's say that this is true and that this fact justifies drug prohibition. Please explain how alcohol can be excluded.
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Go back and read John Tierney's columns since he started writing OpEds last April. I posted most of them, if not all. He was Bill Safire's replacement. The whole column is posted here at FreeRepublic.com until its administration required excerpting. Tierney does not observe the Times' party line. Tierney probably couldn't resist the dig at Bennett's expense because he has a penchant for debunking BS. Check Recycling Is Garbage.
Ever seen alcohol mess up a whole family's situation?
So do you advocate making alchol illegal again if a "tougher stance on all drugs needs to be made?
The question is, do you think not allowing people to buy decongenstants without a prescription would help your sister-in-law or prevent situations like her?
I'd like to know what "territory" has been taken and held in the WOD; that is, which illegal drugs in what parts of the country are now unavaliable due to the efforts of the WOD.
I mean, is there some city in Minnesota where you can't buy meth because of the WOD? Or some town in Georgia where you can't buy cocaine because of the WOD?
NY Times agrees with the libertarians. Big surprise.
This is the one place that leftwing hardcore communists and libertarians can sit down and shake hands.
Drug legalization? Forget about it. There are too many politicians, policemen, and prosecutors who have a vested pecuniary, political, and career interests in the WOD. Just like a real war, serious money is involved, and the gravy train ends without the WOD.
When it comes to drugs, most conservatives are as bad as liberals in advancing the nanny state.
Better yet, after the 30-year WOD, is there even a fully drug-free Federal prison?
The cynic in me says of this: it's the new reefer madness. Unless a broad, comprehensive survey across "all" the users is done (not just the ones who can't hide it because it causes them to head at mach 5 to hell -- possibly in conjunction with pre-existing mental problems) there is no sure way to tell. I really do, however, fear these home chemistry sets that are reportedly cranking out crank (pardon the pun) from coast to coast. Can you say impurity city? And any that may be had on the street in bulk might have come from one of those.
The war on guns: Joel Miller explains how drug cops are killing 2nd Amendment.
Connecting the War on Guns & Drugs [my title]
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I am mostly against the useless WOD but the guy is wrong. Meth is nasty, nasty, nasty stuff... and it's everywhere.
What's worse is "where" it is appearing. Meth is not in the inner city or the large metropolitan areas of the country. It has invaded small town USA. I was born in a little town in Kansas. I was back there a few years back and the place was just infested with the stuff. This being a place where a drug problem was just unheard of. The small local police force is just overwhelmed with, not only the drug itself but the crime that comes along with it. Burglary, assault, domestic violence, you name it they got it. Used to be the place of Mom and apple pie. They have definitely lost their innocence.
Drinking.
Adultery.
Gambling.
Smoking.
Overeating.
Surely you are not suggesting that we 'need' a Federal 'war' on a behavior just because it can 'mess up a whole families [sic] situation,' are you?
Bottom line, free market test of effectiveness; have drugs become scarcer or more expensive? Kilo of cocaine today is reported to be purer and costs the same in non-adjusted for inflation dollars as it did 25 years ago.
What honks me off, Texas just joined a number of other states where one has to jump through hoops to get pseudophedrine, this is supposed to make life hard on meth dealers. My prediction here: in a years time I will have to go to more trouble to get medicine to keep my nose from constantly running during allergy season than the meth heads have getting their crap. Their dealers work 24/7 and don't require ID.
Yet, the drug that the Drug Czar's office seems to be getting most exercised about these days is not so much meth as it is POT. It galls me to no end that over 700,000 Americans are arrested every year on pot charges, and billions of public dollars are wasted on enforcement of pot prohibition (not to mention those ridiculous PSAs from the Drug Czar's office), yet nothing substantial is done about the real threat: ie. illegal immigration.
What are your favorite illegal drugs?
The War on Drugs is simply the American version of totalitarian civilian terror campaigns - based on the same necessary Big Lie of Socialism - that the people are incapable of self-government.
No flames here!
Government has ASSUMED the authority of telling the people what they can posses or ingest.
Many 'conservatives' sit back and cheer the WOsD.... guess it never occurs to them that giving government MORE power that it actually posses just encourages more unlawful and illegitimate encroachments.
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