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Documentary Explores '56 slayings of Missionaries to Ecuador
BP News ^ | 8-4-05 | Jerry Pierce

Posted on 08/08/2005 7:31:39 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right!

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When this event occurred 50 years ago (in Jan) it was all over the news, and Life magazine. (Greta Van Susteren would run this story 24-7 for weeks!)

An incredible story. Could you forgive your father's murderer, live with him and call him "grandfather"?

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1 posted on 08/08/2005 7:31:41 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: I'm ALL Right!

Well, I, uh, read the comic-book version when I was a kid.

The missionary pilot's flying in circles while lowering a bucket trick became the operating principle behind the AC-47 fixed-wing gunship in 'Nam.

Or so the legend goes.


2 posted on 08/08/2005 7:39:37 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: TonyRo76
The two men who traveled with Steven Curtis Chapman are pictured above, Steve Saint (son of Nate, slain missionary) and Mincaye (mihn-kie-ay). Mincaye killed Steve's father.
4 posted on 08/08/2005 8:17:47 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: I'm ALL Right!
I've read the book Countless times; in it, the Tribe was then-known as the "Aucas" [pronounced: ow-KA],

and they were totally untouchable and unreachable to any other Ecuadorian Natives & White Men--Any outsider found was speared painfully to death.

5 posted on 08/08/2005 8:18:44 PM PDT by ExcursionGuy84 ("I will Declare the Beauty of The LORD.")
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To: I'm ALL Right!

UNBELIEVABLE STORY!!!

One of my favorites. My tagline is actually from one of the men who were speared. I saw this documentary in a theater in Houston. The theater was packed. Wonder why it didn't go wider? Probably one of the top 5 documentaries of all time! I did a search. FOX Home Entertainment releases it this fall. The documentary website says they will give screening kits away if you can show it to a group of at least 50 people. Interesting.
7 posted on 08/08/2005 8:34:08 PM PDT by No Fool ("He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." Jim Elliot (1927-1956))
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To: Aeronaut; Mr. Silverback; MeekOneGOP; nutmeg; 2Jedismom; trussell; Salvation; Bobby777; Salem; ...

Looks like something your groups would be interested in...


8 posted on 08/08/2005 8:39:37 PM PDT by No Fool ("He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." Jim Elliot (1927-1956))
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To: nepdap

The story/movie we were discussing back in March.


9 posted on 08/08/2005 8:40:50 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: sinanju
Well, I, uh, read the comic-book version when I was a kid.

I did too! Had a few of those Christian comics - they were cool. And a bit graphic at times, if I remember correctly...

10 posted on 08/08/2005 8:42:30 PM PDT by agrace (Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me if you know so much. Job 38:4)
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To: TonyRo76

Mincaye sings/chants on one of SCC's songs on his album Declaration - it's a very haunting and beautiful end to a great song. Lyrics to No Greater Love -

Man of courage with your message of peace
What is that look in your eyes?
Why have you come to this faraway place?
What is this story you would lay down your life to tell?
What kind of love can this be?

There is no greater love than this
There is no greater gift that can ever be given
To be willing to die so another might live
There is no greater love than this

Broken hearted from all you have lost
How can you sing through your tears?
What is this music that can bear such a cost?
What is this fire that grows stronger against the wind?
What kind of flame can this be?

This is the love that God showed the world
When He gave us His Son
So we could know His love forever
Beyond the gates of splendor

This is what SCC says about it on the album -

"Through Gates of Splendor by Elisabeth Elliot is a book that really impacted me and challenges me in many ways. It’s the story of Jim Elliott and Nate Saint and the five missionaries who went to Ecuador in the fifties and were martyred by the tribe known at the time as the Aucas. In the process of writing ‘No Greater Love’ some things happened that resurfaced this story again in my life. I found Steve Saint on the internet. He is the son of slain missionary Nate Saint. I found that he was writing some stories about working with the Waodanis (pronounced woo-donnie), the people who were formerly known as the Aucas. I discovered he was in America with a member of the Waodani tribe named Mincay (pronounced men-kai). Mincay is one of the six men who killed his father, Nate Saint. He was here in America speaking in his native tongue about the redeeming power of forgiveness and God’s love and God’s grace. I thought this is too good to be true. I couldn’t believe this was really happening. Steve Saint and Mincay came to my studio and he sang for me of God’s forgiveness and God’s mercy and God’s grace and of his journey of coming to know the maker and becoming a God follower. I had this idea and dream of actually having Mincay sing with me on this album. That dream became a reality. God let that happen. It’s an amazing thing. You hear him chanting at the end of ‘No Greater Love.’"


11 posted on 08/08/2005 8:50:51 PM PDT by agrace (Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me if you know so much. Job 38:4)
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To: No Fool

My husband loves that quote (your tagline). I think Twila Paris wrote a song about it as well. (Long time ago!) The first time I had ever heard the "He is no fool" quote was in her song, but I didn't know the story behind it until years later.


12 posted on 08/08/2005 9:11:15 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: agrace

"I did too! Had a few of those Christian comics - they were cool. And a bit graphic at times, if I remember correctly."

____________________________________________________________

Remember that one about the Dutch pastor who smuggled bibles into Eastern Europe?

I wasn't too fond of the religious Archie comics however, that seemed somehow sacreligious (to comicdom, that is).


13 posted on 08/09/2005 5:20:17 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: TonyRo76

I saw the same Steven Curtis Chapman concert at the Fox in Atlanta.

It was amazing to see that the entire village has turned to Christianity.

It was neat to hear the man speak in his native language, while the son of the murdered missionary translated for him.


14 posted on 08/09/2005 5:23:22 AM PDT by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: I'm ALL Right!
The pastor of the church I belonged to 25 years ago, went to Wheaton College with Jim Elliot.

He related the story, and some background in one of our Sunday school lessons, and often referenced the Elliots in his sermons.

It touched him deeply, and he relayed the emotional impact to all of us.---He also thought of joining the mission team over there, but God had other purposes for him.

This story stayed with me....

..I and started collecting Elizabeth Elliot's works.

15 posted on 08/09/2005 5:36:42 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: No Fool
Here's that song I told you about. Looks like she changed the quote a bit for artistic purposes, but the sentiment is the same (Incidentally, is that why you chose your screenname? I'm quick!):

There once was a man born of high circumstance
Heir to advantage, He had every chance to succeed

But light from the cross made his dreams appear small
And to their surprise he went far--from it all
For the love of his Savior, for one priceless jewel
They could not understand so they called him a fool

Chorus
He is no fool
If he would choose
To give the thing he cannot keep
To buy what he can never lose
To see a treasure in one soul
That far outshines the brightest gold
He is no fool,
He is no fool
He is no fool,
He is no fool

There once was a boy who could run like the wind
Given to lead, every man was his friend at the line

But light from the cross made his race appear small
And to their amazement, he followed the call
For the love of his Savior, for one priceless jewel
They could not understand so they called him a fool

Repeat chorus

Show me the fool who abandons his life
To walk in the steps of our Lord Jesus Christ

16 posted on 08/09/2005 6:41:37 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: agrace
Beauty Bump!

I can't wait to see this documentary. The book "Through Gates of Splendor," by Elisabeth Elliot, has inspired so many. Those lyrics from Stephen Curtis Chapman speak so much beauty, truth, and grace in so few lines.

17 posted on 08/09/2005 6:47:32 AM PDT by .30Carbine (Arise! Shine!)
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To: Preachin'
It was amazing to see that the entire village has turned to Christianity.

It never ceases to amaze me how God's Law of New Life works:

"I tell you the truth,
unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies,
it remains only a single seed.
But if it dies, it produces many seeds."
~ John 12:24

18 posted on 08/09/2005 6:52:34 AM PDT by .30Carbine (Arise! Shine!)
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To: .30Carbine

"I tell you the truth, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed.
But if it dies, it produces many seeds."

Christ was speaking primarily of Himself in a prophetic sense, but also about our own call for evangelism.


19 posted on 08/09/2005 6:58:01 AM PDT by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: sinanju

Yes, into Budapest, iirc. And there was another one with a guy who got his face really messed up as a kid, from Brazil or somewhere I think. And one that told the story of Corrie Ten Boom.

Do you by any chance remember the name of the company that made them?


20 posted on 08/09/2005 7:13:10 AM PDT by agrace (Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me if you know so much. Job 38:4)
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