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Old enemies' wargames send a powerful message to the US
Times Online ^ | August 3, 2005 | Jane Macartney

Posted on 08/08/2005 7:29:02 PM PDT by Bald Eagle777

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I thought someone would have posted this already. I didn't see this posted, so here we go.

Russia needs the cash, and China wants the "goods", among many, many other factors.

1 posted on 08/08/2005 7:29:05 PM PDT by Bald Eagle777
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This is not a good sign.

Considering Communist nations lack the ability to create wealth, their need for new economic infusion comes via expansion.

I'm a little more suspect of Russia at this point. We know what we have in China, but Russia isn't too different (in their goals) IMHOP.


2 posted on 08/08/2005 7:32:27 PM PDT by mcg2000
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Wow it's nice that Russia and China are gearing up to provide our boys with some much-needed target practice.


3 posted on 08/08/2005 7:34:07 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Bald Eagle777

Just strategy? Or is it "the enemy of my enemy is my friend?"


4 posted on 08/08/2005 7:34:07 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Bald Eagle777

Gotta wonder if some Chinese soldiers carrying the mystery
virus will infect and decimate both forces.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1399613/posts


5 posted on 08/08/2005 7:36:33 PM PDT by Boundless
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Both nations already have the virus.


6 posted on 08/08/2005 7:39:25 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: Bald Eagle777

Didn't the SCUD missile come from Russia? Didn't Russia hen-peck the Afghani's?
If this article was supposed to scare me it didn't. Russia is poor as dirt and its a shame. I guess China doesn't trust its own people well enough to make its own weapons in its own factories.


7 posted on 08/08/2005 7:39:32 PM PDT by Mrs. Shawnlaw (Rock beats scissors. Don't run with rocks. NRA)
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That's right, we bad, we da man.
8 posted on 08/08/2005 7:40:27 PM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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They can structure this any way they want. We can still kick either - or both - of their butts.

Both of their militaries are decades behind us.


9 posted on 08/08/2005 7:40:59 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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Seriously, this is kinda like Archie Bunker and Gloria Steinem doing a duet.


10 posted on 08/08/2005 7:41:55 PM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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No point in grousing around the facts, eh?


11 posted on 08/08/2005 7:43:21 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: Boundless

The Avian flu should be the least of their problem. What they have to worry about is whether or not the chi-coms are infected with the Ebola Recombinant.


12 posted on 08/08/2005 7:45:55 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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> We can still kick either - or both - of their butts.

Plus, Taiwan has mined the Straight with billions of
latent Alka-Seltzer tablets. As soon as the invasion
forces reaches mid-way ...
... fizzzzz ...
resulting in a drop in seawater density, and the
whole Chinese Navy goes under.


13 posted on 08/08/2005 7:46:18 PM PDT by Boundless
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Hi datura, Both of their militaries are decades behind us.

I agree.

14 posted on 08/08/2005 7:47:11 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Bald Eagle777

They will lead with their Attack Small Submarines.


15 posted on 08/08/2005 7:47:22 PM PDT by Shazbot29 (Light a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day; light him on fire, he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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To: Bald Eagle777
We should send our own message to our "most favored nation". How about instantly revalue their currency a minimum of 25% or keep the junk you flood our markets with? How about those cheap third rate automobiles you just got approved to sell over here? Keep em.
China right now doesn't have the military recourses or infrastructure to stand up to us. We need to regrow our own industry and and cut off any country that sells to China. I mean any country. We don't outsource to them, we don't cooperate militarily, either with training or joint research and development and we block their crappy products.
I don't know about you guys but I am seriously sick to death with our Demicans and Republicrats maneuvering us into world war three forty years down the line. There is no long term plan for America in Washington, there is only a global plan. I like America and don't want to support the international community (including our two continents) anymore. Anyone who wants to go against us should have to logically follow their actions to loss of American support. We the people are getting sold down the river on most issues foreign and domestic by these sellout politicians.
Sorry about the rant but I say bring back the Wig (sp?) party and lets flush all the sellout worthless traitorous politicians!
16 posted on 08/08/2005 7:48:44 PM PDT by bbenton
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> The Avian flu should be the least of their problem.
> What they have to worry about is whether or not the
> chi-coms are infected with the Ebola Recombinant.

That's why I called it the mystery virus. That avian
flu thread I referenced has morphed into tracking
who knows what that's going on over there.

Even so, H5N1 avian is pretty nasty all by itself.


17 posted on 08/08/2005 7:48:51 PM PDT by Boundless
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China-Russian alliance has been in the works since the US-led NATO war against Yugoslavia. The Clinton apologists like to claim that there was no downside to that war but always fail to mention that it was that war that pushed Russian and China into each others arms.


18 posted on 08/08/2005 7:50:03 PM PDT by Avenger
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Even so, H5N1 avian is pretty nasty all by itself.

That it is.

19 posted on 08/08/2005 7:54:17 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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eroding decades of dominance by Washington

Presumably Jane believes that Washington dominated Asia decades ago, right after America's leftist elites insisted upon abandoning Vietnam.

20 posted on 08/08/2005 7:54:37 PM PDT by Milhous
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