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To: spanalot
Ever hear of the Zaphorosti Cossacks of 3 centuries prior?

Have you heard about zasciankowa szlachta in Poland, or about gorale podhalanscy or Kurpiowie? They are all distinct groups/societies yet they are Polish. Have you heard about Mew England Yankees? Or Scotch-Irish of Appalachia? Aten't they American?

Ukrainian identity as a Autrian invention is laughable - did they clone Shevchenko?

I said separatist (anit-Russian/Austrian invented) identity/ideology. Of cource there are several distinct ethnic groups on Ukraine. Same with greater Russia - she also has local and diverse subgrops, subcultures and dialects.

And yes XIXc Taras Shevchenko was a Ukrainian poet who made the great contribution to the rise of separate Ukrainian identity. He is a good illustration that it was XIX century thing.

36 posted on 08/09/2005 5:44:58 AM PDT by A. Pole (Mandarin Meng-tzu: "The duty of the ruler is to ensure the prosperous livelihood of his subjects.")
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To: A. Pole

"He is a good illustration that it was XIX century thing."

What is your point if not the derision of a free Ukraine becuase it is only "a 19th century thing."

That's like saying Poland is a 1918 thing.


40 posted on 08/09/2005 1:44:33 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: A. Pole; All

"Translation"



"And even between them goralami there is different dialect and pronunciation of words. I don't have to take you further. There is a reason we know who's from Warsaw: teasing but you know what I mean; try to go to Bieszczady and move further east to Bialystok and you are like what did you just say? Even in Gdynia: I know you know what I mean."




"end"


thank you all


45 posted on 08/09/2005 2:37:22 PM PDT by anonymoussierra (Nie b¹dŸ pochopny w duchu do gniewu, bo gniew przebywa w piersi g³upców)
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To: A. Pole
Have you heard about zasciankowa szlachta in Poland, or about gorale podhalanscy or Kurpiowie? They are all distinct groups/societies yet they are Polish. Have you heard about Mew England Yankees? Or Scotch-Irish of Appalachia? Aten't they American?

If Ukrainians are Russians, then why Americans are not British subjects? Why Osterreichers are not Germans? Why Mexicans are not subjects of the Spanish Crown?

64 posted on 08/10/2005 9:09:54 AM PDT by romus (Poland is my country. And I love Her.)
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