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To: Sweetjustusnow

Please you are getting hysterical.

Since I sit on the Board of Directors of a proposed National Heritage Area, I think I know far better than you what they can and cannot legally do.

We absolutely cannot use our Federal operating funds to purchase real property (land). It is against the law for us to do so. We can recieve up to $10,000,000 in Federal money ($1,000,000 per year for 10 years) but it is not guaranteed that we get that amount and we are only allowed to use that money for explicit purposes (which again do not include buying land). We can use the money to develop a management plan for the area (which is a fancy way of determing how to best tell the story and get the public interested in the story), interpretation, basic staff salaries (no board members receive any compensation), signage, brochures and publishing, tourism and business outreach, education programs for schools, grants to historic sites etc. etc. We are also responsible for raising additional funds for the Heritage Area.

Yes we are a private not for profit managing entity. None of us work for the National Park Service and we cannot do so. The Board is made up of various persons who are interested in the project including BUSINESS PEOPLE and PRIVATE LANDOWNERS. We all work for free and give up large amounts of our valuable time because we believe in what we do.

I have to crack up at people like you. You pull some stuff off of a whackjob website that is total hysterical BS and you start screaming like chicken little. You and I can agree or disagree about the propriety and value of National Heritage Areas but arguing that they are a UN plot to take over the world is laughable.

My propsed Heritage Area was the brainchild of a Republican Congressman and one of the Nation's oldest patriotic organizations. It is hardly a liberal endeavor although we do have liberals who also support what we are trying to do and some who don't.

P.S. - I am not some liberal plant or a newbie to this site, nor do I work for Greenpeace or Kofi Annan. I am a guy who believes in what our National Heritage Area is trying to do and I believe that we are going about it in a manner that is friendly to private property rights, good for private business and public/private preservation efforts.

Have a nice day.


16 posted on 08/08/2005 3:58:30 PM PDT by XRdsRev (New Jersey has more horses per square mile than any other U.S. state.)
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To: XRdsRev

"Friendly to private property rights".....lmao

You have no right to anyone's private property. If I wanted my property listed as an historical site, I'd have filled out the proper paper work to do so.

"Hysterical" is always the term used by those who hope to shut the mouth of the private property owner.

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.


19 posted on 08/08/2005 4:30:29 PM PDT by Sweetjustusnow (Help Kill Senate Bill 54....NOW. Another Property Rights Infringement. (Update: TOO LATE))
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To: XRdsRev

Gee, what is this? Why! It's the partners of the National Park Service, and lo and behold, I believe I see OCTA listed. http://www.nps.gov/nts/partners_nonprofits.html


20 posted on 08/08/2005 4:40:55 PM PDT by Sweetjustusnow (Help Kill Senate Bill 54....NOW. Another Property Rights Infringement. (Update: TOO LATE))
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To: XRdsRev

Eliminate all Heritage areas!!!!!!


40 posted on 08/08/2005 7:39:39 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: XRdsRev

Brother... Just wait till you get your ephifany and find out the truth of your misguided situation... Brother!!!


43 posted on 08/08/2005 7:47:08 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Iraq! Our exit strategy is... VICTORY!!!)
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To: XRdsRev

I am really concerned that people with good intentions are being used by our federal government to think up good uses for other peoples property.
The UN and agenda 21 are slowly implementing policy using willing people to gradually erode our national sovergnity.
Groups of people are being organized with the lure of government money to pay for those "studies" and administer land use proposals that are then in turn presented to planning and zoning committees, parks and recreation boards etc.
I am greatly concerned that other people are scheming ways to turn private property into public areas. Then after public control comes user fees, a little sales tax support and so on. And what percentage of our land should be set aside? How many historical sites can be feasable protected from progress and how do we classify their significance in comparison to private enterprise and private development?

I am wary of other people scheming what they think is best for my property and keeping me out of the loop until a public meeting has been called. The schemers have already thought out the details and come prepared with a great sales presentation, where the land owner has been caught unaware and totally unprepared for the undermining of his property rights. How much land has been stolen because of schemes hatched behind closed doors?

I am sure your intentions are noble. In some cases probably sensible and necessary. But beware of the intentions of others who enable these things to happen.
This heritage concept is a pretty thinly veiled socialist land grab in my opinion.


47 posted on 08/08/2005 7:56:27 PM PDT by o_zarkman44
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To: XRdsRev
Oh oh, now you've done it. Posting actual facts instead of whacko myths.

They'll do their ping list thing and pretty soon there will be dozens of sycophants chanting "liar liar, traitor, traitor, Bushbot, Bushbot"

In the ping list world the winner is not the side with the facts and logic, but the side that can shout "liar" the most times.

53 posted on 08/08/2005 8:12:43 PM PDT by bayourod (Winning elections is the only thing. Those who glorify losing are unclear on the subject of democrac)
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To: XRdsRev
"(New Jersey has more horses per square mile than any other U.S. state.)"

XRR, And I would guess at least three times that many horses hindquarters orifices. Peace and love, George.

You might visit Eco-Logic for very informative information. And, Many of our national parks are "United nations heritage areas."
"Hysterical" LOL

63 posted on 08/09/2005 4:57:57 AM PDT by George Frm Br00klyn Park (FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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