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Swift Boats Of Science
The Nation ^
| August 4, 2005
| Ari Berman
Posted on 08/08/2005 7:26:26 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"Created as counterpoints to large, well-established medical organizations whose work is subject to rigorous review and who assert no political agenda," Bwahahahahahahahhahahahhahha!
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posted on
08/08/2005 7:29:47 AM PDT
by
hang 'em
(Can we finally put an end to the "deport Peter Jennings" talk now??? Hmmmmm?)
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To: hang 'em
"Created as counterpoints to large, well-established medical organizations whose work is subject to rigorous review and who assert no political agenda,"If the issue were socialized medicine we'd be hearing about the profit motive of these same "well-established medical organizations".
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posted on
08/08/2005 7:32:12 AM PDT
by
rhombus
To: Tailgunner Joe
Why do so many today have trouble with TRUTH?
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posted on
08/08/2005 7:34:37 AM PDT
by
FearNoMan
To: FearNoMan
Because TRUTH is a relative, subjective thing. < tongue planted firmly in cheek>
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posted on
08/08/2005 7:37:59 AM PDT
by
clee1
(We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
To: Tailgunner Joe
Perrin and other established scientific experts have found no important difference between children raised by same-sex and heterosexual couples, nor a higher tendency toward "antisocial" behavior among gays and lesbians.They probably only interviewed the subjects and used their opinions.
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posted on
08/08/2005 7:38:15 AM PDT
by
trebb
("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
To: Tailgunner Joe
"the tiny think tanks with names often mimicking those of established medical authorities have sought to dispute the notion of a medical consensus on social issues such as gay rights, the right to die, abortion, and birth control." Science by consensus is always political. Anyone who dares dissent gets casted out and mocked. Unfortunately, that is the state of science today. No one dares dissent at the consensus or they are branded a kook. This probably holds by real scientific advancement more than anything else.
To: Tailgunner Joe
It's as if the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth discovered science. YES! The author writes this like it's a bad thing. Personally, I would consider it a great compliment to be equated with another brave group that insisted on telling the truth despite the legacy media unleashing every weapon in its arsenal against them.
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posted on
08/08/2005 7:40:33 AM PDT
by
RebelBanker
(To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!)
To: Tailgunner Joe
Perrin and other established scientific experts have found no important difference between children raised by same-sex and heterosexual couples, nor a higher tendency toward "antisocial" behavior among gays and lesbians.
If memory serves correctly, a glance at the prison population and children with societal issues in school will paint a different picture. Too bad these "experts" can't get their noses out of the books and into the real world long enough to say something intelligent.
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posted on
08/08/2005 7:54:02 AM PDT
by
so_real
("The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
To: Tailgunner Joe
in a Florida Supreme Court decision upholding a ban on adoption by same-sex couples Well if even the Floozies agree, this Berman is really on the losing side.
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posted on
08/08/2005 7:55:58 AM PDT
by
The Red Zone
(Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
To: Tailgunner Joe
I have not seen the study material on the claims here, but as far as suicide, drug use, smoking and premature death, "gay" men have far higher rates than the otherwise same demographics in the general population. Ive seen the summaries with back up numbers to these.
I t is NOT a psychological problem and they are NOT born that way; it was, is and remains a moral problem and carries baggage with it.
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posted on
08/08/2005 7:56:31 AM PDT
by
El Laton Caliente
(NRA Member & GUNSNET.NET Moderator)
To: Tailgunner Joe
I am glad someone is using science to speak the truth, but all we need is common sense to see it.
Sick people do sick things.
To: FearNoMan
Why do so many today have trouble with TRUTH?<<<<<<<<<<<
Because most value their own comfort far more than TRUTH! I, myself am plagued with an inability to convince myself that all the things I would prefer to believe are true, I look at myself and realize that while I am a productive person and not a drain on society there are many areas in which I have fallen far short of being the person I used to imagine myself to be. I suspect that my own inability to fail to see the truth is shared by only a minority of my fellow citizens. Those who endorse socialism and all its variants have totally renounced truth and made a decision to dwell in the land of make believe. They would of course deny the decision but they have made it nonetheless.
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posted on
08/08/2005 8:05:38 AM PDT
by
RipSawyer
(I wouldn't mind being broke if I weren't so short of cash.)
To: Tailgunner Joe
I wonder if the experts think methamphetamine abuse and
increasing rates of HIV infection and other VDs with those
users is not "antisocial" behaviour. I would think it is
antisocial because is makes the user dependant on "society" in general to help get over their self inflicted problems.
Not to mention "suicidal"
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posted on
08/08/2005 8:12:36 AM PDT
by
Getready
((...Fear not ...))
To: Tailgunner Joe
I wonder if the experts think methamphetamine abuse and
increasing rates of HIV infection and other VDs with those
users is not "antisocial" behaviour. I would think it is
antisocial because is makes the user dependant on "society" in general to help get over their self inflicted problems.
Not to mention "suicidal"
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posted on
08/08/2005 8:12:48 AM PDT
by
Getready
((...Fear not ...))
To: Tailgunner Joe
It's as if the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth discovered science.
It's as if Trotsky awoke from the dead to write a hit piece for his comrades. Oh wait...it's The Nation, they are Trotsky arisen from the dead.
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posted on
08/08/2005 8:13:53 AM PDT
by
sully777
(The Religion Of Peace apparently kills!)
To: RipSawyer
"I suspect that my own inability to fail to see the truth is shared by only a minority of my fellow citizens."
I suppose that's why the road is narrow - and I also suspect those who renounce truth will end up living in a place that is not make believe.
To: Tailgunner Joe
Why do you bother to read this rag? Vanden Heuval is a raving idiot. She wouldn't know the truth if it was set on fire and shoved up her --s.
I guess you just enjoy heaping on the mockery of this bantam weight flat of toilet paper.
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posted on
08/08/2005 8:18:52 AM PDT
by
WillMalven
(It don't matter where you are when "the bomb" goes off, as long as you can say "What was that?")
To: Tailgunner Joe
It's as if the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth discovered science. Damn! The lefties are still sore from the beatings they took in the election.
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posted on
08/08/2005 8:49:35 AM PDT
by
Jeff Gordon
(Recall Barbara Boxer)
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