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To: Christine Alford
August 7, 2005
‘Stooges’ act gets teen fine, sentence
Families dispute events between Gold Hill boys
By SANNE SPECHT
Mail Tribune

Alford’s refusal to let David go to the intake hearing upped the ante and brought down "unfair, Draconian measures" upon her son, Kellington said.

"Intake hearing" has been used here; in the original article I commented from, "the word was "initial"; that is normally synonymous to 'preliminary'. In any case, that is a quibble; the fact stated in every article is that a hearing was deliberately missed, by your refusal to allow attendance.

"One resident who's proud of her reputation as a troublemaker is former Councilwoman Christine Alford, who last summer collected written complaints about Crawford and passed them on to Jackson County's sheriff and district attorney and Gold Hill officials."

Newshawk: Portland NORML (http://www.pdxnorml.org/)
Pubdate: Sun, Apr 25 1999
Source: Oregonian, The (OR)
Copyright: 1999 The Oregonian

Okay, I'll publicly apologize.
I'm sorry I put words in your mouth, simply because a news story had already done so. It was an attribution, not a quote. I did not read carefully enough, while synthesizing several search results.

I'LL TEACH MY KIDS NOT TO BE COWARDS OR TO HESITATE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT...

So, it is "right" to physically respond (commit assault) in response to a non-direct verbal statement, made to a third party? Confront, and defend, yes; physically attack, no.

65 posted on 08/11/2005 11:01:57 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Marching Morons are coming...and they're breeding more Democrats beyond all reason!)
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To: All
A massive physical assault is the only answer to this type of abuse. On one occasion a 2x4 to the gut as the bully turned the corner was a valuable lessoned learned by him as to whom he could and could not be pick on. If they are not left bloody or gasping for air then your retaliation will only egg them on.

If you are of the mind that a titty twister never REALLY hurt anyone, then I agree. Likewise, a massive blow to the gut with a board or to the knee with a bat will not kill you but it will send a message. Additionally, if your ribs are broken, it becomes difficult to bully. If your knee is bent backward, it becomes difficult to walk, let alone bully.

If someone is going to court, let it be me. Let the bully explain to his friends how someone half his size managed to get the better of him.
66 posted on 08/11/2005 11:19:22 AM PDT by texan75010
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To: ApplegateRanch
You miss the point, I don't condone the twisting, never did it, never even knew it was a "thing". But since may others have 'read between the lines" and had it clarified even more by Ken Chapman, David was punished not for the action, that they admit would not have resulted in court, he was punished because he declined their invitation to be further examined. If the original officer Dean Muchow, filed a NON CRIMINAL INCIDENT report, and NO CITATION was issued, what exactly could be gained by submitting to further examination? I don't want my children to learn to give up any rights they have, like the right to say you are innocent (his guilt was judged on his intention by the way, not the action), just because "you are really going to get it if you buck the "system". Today, they further demonstrated their sadistic tendencies by placing a phone call to the Gold Hill Public Works director informing him that David can not do his community service at the public works, although other offenders will still be assigned there. When is it a good time to reign in abusive public employees? only after they are caught on video tape "punishing" people with broomsticks in orifices?
67 posted on 08/11/2005 1:28:43 PM PDT by Christine Alford (Christine Alford)
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To: ApplegateRanch

No, it is not right to admit that your intentions were malicious when they were not. It is not right to bear false witness against yourself in order to avoid consequences.
If you were laughing and some food flew out of your mouth and another person called the police and said you spit in their face maliciously, would you concede to that? The accusation that David MALICIOUSLY touched that boy, is an extrememly serious charge to us, and to him. That fact has been overshadowed by the sensational "titty twisting", aspect. That is why he was so adamant, that the intention was never malicious. And he apologized to the boy at the bike track months ago.


83 posted on 08/11/2005 7:42:07 PM PDT by Christine Alford (Christine Alford)
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