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> Defenitely, I can't, and neither can you say that she
> willingly agreed to sex.

And that I never claimed.

> 1. She had just met the boys.

You mean you have never done it with a girl/woman you have met the same day?

> 2. The environment (in a car in a foreign land) was not
> conducive to such an act.

I would say the environment (vacation, in a foreign land) is very much conducive to letting loose and doing things one would not normally do it at home.

> 3. I've come to learn about Nat in these threads and
> elsewhere and believe her to have high moral values.

Ties into 2. Away from home, things are a little different. Esepcially if alcohol is consumed.

> 4. On a first encounter it's very unlikely for a girl to
> have sex with three guys or with just one while the other
> two watch.

For which we have no evidence.

> 5. If she had sex willingly, that would have been it and
> each party would have gone their way. The fact that she
> disappeared is a good indication that she resisted and may
> have been killed for doing so.

No it just means that something happened. Many things could have happened.
Something bad, to be sure. And yes, Joran looks very suspicious. But I am not for symbolically crucifying a man without any evidence.