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Space Shuttle Landing Live Thread(Update: 2d Pass on landing. Weather unstable. 24 Hour extension)
08/07/05 | Kevin Davis

Posted on 08/07/2005 4:25:15 PM PDT by KevinDavis

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To: Prime Choice

Should have been somewhere on the Gulf of Mexico between Harlingen and Kingsville, TX. Closer to the equator than Cape Canaveral, still would have lots of water to the east in case of launch problems, and just 28 inches of rain a year instead of 52 inches.


622 posted on 08/08/2005 8:05:35 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
spoken like a true Texan...

;o)

623 posted on 08/08/2005 8:22:14 AM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: DefiantZERO; Hillarys Gate Cult; Leapfrog
They can land at Edwards in CA or in NM - HOWEVER...

They would much prefer to land at KSC because that is where the shuttle lives. If they land elsewhere - they would need to somehow transport the shuttle back to KSC. This wastes time and $$ - which they are being much more careful of these days.


624 posted on 08/08/2005 8:28:39 AM PDT by Dashing Dasher (I already made like infinity of those at scout camp.)
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To: Dashing Dasher

Saw the piggy-back shuttle in a low flyover many years ago.
That is an incredible sight to behold.


625 posted on 08/08/2005 8:43:10 AM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: Dashing Dasher

When it takes off from around here, they usually do a lap or two over the valley, so as many folks can get a good look as possible. If Discovery lands at Edwards I'll get to see it, definitely hear it, and even listen to the scanner traffic. So, that's what I'm hoping for. I'm selfish like that. :-)


626 posted on 08/08/2005 9:21:52 AM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie

Turning green with envy if they land at Edwards AFB.


627 posted on 08/08/2005 9:33:39 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (ISLAM IS A CULT!!!!! IT MUST BE ERADICATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Good strategic thinking of someone long ago to base the Space Shuttle in a place that gets more rainy days than 80%+ of America....

I have ofter thought of that.

628 posted on 08/08/2005 9:48:07 AM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: NCC-1701
Turning green with envy if they land at Edwards AFB.

I'd bet the decision has already been made.

629 posted on 08/08/2005 9:49:03 AM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Dashing Dasher
this wastes time and $$

Money? Who cares about money? Just raise the taxes a bit and they can cover everything.

630 posted on 08/08/2005 9:49:52 AM PDT by Asphalt (Join my NFL ping list! FReepmail me| The best things in life aren't things)
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To: DefiantZERO
There must be other suitable landing locations than KSC or Edwards. Wouldn't they be able to commandeer a landing strip at almost any major airport?

Aw, heck...they can land the thing in L.A. :)


631 posted on 08/08/2005 10:15:54 AM PDT by Aracelis
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To: Black Tooth; Diddle E. Squat

They need an east-coast location that typically doesn't get too cold, so it's pretty much the only place. At least that's my understanding.


632 posted on 08/08/2005 10:21:52 AM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie

Why east coast?


633 posted on 08/08/2005 10:24:53 AM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Black Tooth

They have to launch from the east coast because it's a low-inclination orbit, and the required trajectory is too shallow and they don't want it going over cities. (Vandenberg is fine for the high-inclination launches).


634 posted on 08/08/2005 10:41:21 AM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
Harlingen and Kingsville are on the coast towards the bottom of the map. Lots and lots of open water in the Gulf of Mexico, just like with the east coast. Middle to southern end of Padre Island would have been perfect.


635 posted on 08/08/2005 11:03:25 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat

From the History of Cape Canaveral:

Cape Canaveral was chosen for rocket launches to take advantage of the earth's rotation. At the equator, the centrifugal force of earth's rotation is the maximum. The direction of earth's rotation is such that to take advantage of the rotation, rockets should be launched eastward. It is also highly desirable to have the downrange area sparsely populated, ideally an ocean, in case of accidents. Thus rockets should be launched from a continent's east coast as close to the equator as possible. For the United States, Florida is the most southerly east coast location.

I guess the portion of the Gulf isn't considered large enough. (?) I have no idea.


636 posted on 08/08/2005 11:09:13 AM PDT by lainie
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To: NautiNurse

I saw the Challenger on a Piggy Back take off from Eglin, AFB. I was on the End of the Runway. The next Challenger flight was the disaster.


637 posted on 08/08/2005 11:11:16 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: BohDaThone
... The closer to the equator, the greater the assist from the earth's rotation...

Primarily for the lower inclination orbits.

ISS missions are at about 51 degrees inclination, so an equatorial launch site isn't a great help.

638 posted on 08/08/2005 11:15:53 AM PDT by FReepaholic (I'd rather hear a fat girl fart than a pretty boy sing.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

Wowser--did you take photos?


639 posted on 08/08/2005 11:20:48 AM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: lainie
...They have to launch from the east coast because it's a low-inclination orbit...

Actually, missions to the International Space Station are at 51 degrees inclination. That's relatively high. At least for the shuttle.

The orbiter SSME's, ET, SRBs' all had to undergo expensive upgrades in order to reach that inclination.

All for the Russians.

640 posted on 08/08/2005 11:21:57 AM PDT by FReepaholic (I'd rather hear a fat girl fart than a pretty boy sing.)
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