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To: bvw
Show one closed system that evolves to ascending levels of intelligence or function. One. There are none.

The sun dumps a practically unlimited supply of energy on the planet every day. So much for the closed system.

Only one thing evolves -- ideas. And because we see apparent evolution in the long biological record -- that means one thing. Some ideas are evolving and being implemented throughout biological history.

Whatever, so long as you recognize that the above statement belongs in college-level Philosophy classes, and not high-school science classes.

28 posted on 08/07/2005 7:23:29 AM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: Zeroisanumber

IFAIC, doing science without a meta-physics is no science at all. Why do it? If you can't answer that question, you are at best a lemming. Lemmings do not do science.


29 posted on 08/07/2005 7:30:56 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Zeroisanumber
You can't even explain how the sun got there -- without an ideator to set the circumstance for it to be made, nor how the planets came to be and to revolve around it at their set distances. Those are ideations, not random chance.

The mechanisms and physics are MORE interesting -- imo -- when viewed from the stable meta-physical platform of accepting that there is G-d, Creator, and Maintainer.

30 posted on 08/07/2005 7:36:30 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Zeroisanumber; bvw
The sun dumps a practically unlimited supply of energy on the planet every day. So much for the closed system.

Absent new information, our system of natural laws cannot produce life. For confirmation of this observable fact, consider the food industry. They do billions of experiments every year to prove out this fact. Next time you open a jar of peanut butter you will realize that life takes in imputation of information to come about.

Inject preprogrammed information into organic material and you will get an abundance of life if the conditions are just right.

P.S. A jar of peanut butter allows light and heat transfer to do it's work on organic material. You want us to believe energy can generate life on dead matter without the imputation of programmed information.

297 posted on 08/07/2005 7:48:05 PM PDT by bondserv (Creation sings a song of praise, Declaring the wonders of Your ways †)
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