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ENOLA GAY CREW - - "NO REGRETS"
www.enolagay.org ^ | 8-6-05 | ?

Posted on 08/06/2005 9:33:51 PM PDT by jordan8

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To: jordan8

No regrets BTTT


21 posted on 08/06/2005 10:22:19 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (The modern Democratic Party: Attacking our defenders and defending our attackers.)
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To: injin
they should be expressing thanks that we didn't administer this treatment to Tokyo and every single metropolitan center in the country

We didn't have any more A bombs.

22 posted on 08/06/2005 10:23:17 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: ALASKA
...but his great-nephew is sitting in my house right now..

Turn the lights off and see if he glows.

23 posted on 08/06/2005 10:24:33 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Travis McGee

My father, after having been wounded in Operation Varsity as part of the 507th Parachute Infantry Regiment, didn't have enough points to be sent home after VE-Day, and found himself on the SS. James Jackson on August 6th, about to enter the Panama Canal, headed for the Pacific War as a part of a yet to be assigned "Combat Team."

He said every soldier on that ship thought they were dead men until the dropping of the A-bomb was announced.


24 posted on 08/06/2005 10:24:50 PM PDT by Basilides
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To: Last Dakotan
We didn't have any more A bombs.

Actually we had one more. Tibbets had sent 3 B-29's back to the U.S. to pick it up but General Groves had placed a hold on more bombs being shipped until the Japanese had chance to surrender.

25 posted on 08/06/2005 10:25:14 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Tom Tancredo- The Republican Party's Very Own Cynthia McKinney.)
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To: HolgerDansk

pinger


26 posted on 08/06/2005 10:25:16 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: oldleft
I wish it never happened...but I thank God it did.

A severe mercy.

27 posted on 08/06/2005 10:26:44 PM PDT by Prince Caspian (Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
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To: COEXERJ145

Actually we had the plutonium for a third at Los Alamos.

When Truman originally gave the OK to use Little Boy and Fat Man he didn't realize that the form of his order allowed both bombs to be dropped as the field commanders thought prudent. He thought he had only authorized one bomb...with the ability to OK the second. Nagasaki was a surprise to him.

Because of this, he reissued orders on August 10th, saying that no more atom bombs be dropped without his specific OK, and, sufficiently horrified at the women and children already killed in Horishima and Nagasaki, it was doubtful he would order a third bomb dropped on another civilian target. Therefore the plutonium core for the third bomb stayed at Los Alamos and never made it to Tinian.

In the first weeks of August, Marshall had gathered input from his field commanders regarding the efficacy of using atomic bombs as tactical weapons -- specifically for the Invasion of Japan. In fact, Admiral Richard Connolly specifically asked for six atomic weapons to bookend each of the three landing sites for Operation Majestic (formerly Olympic)-- the invasion of Kyushu. Given intelligence reports that the Japanese had 14 instead of 9 divisions on Kyushu by early August, the chances of tactical use of the atomic bomb would have appeared much more inviting.

On August 13th, Marshall was assured that there would be 7 additional plutonium bombs ready by November 1st -- the tentative date for the Kyushu invasion.


28 posted on 08/06/2005 10:27:33 PM PDT by Basilides
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To: Travis McGee

My father was in the Navy during WWII and was off the coast of Japan waiting for the invastion. He told me many times that had it not been for the Atomic bombs, he had no doubt that he would probably not have survived the invasion of Japan. I wouldn't be alive today so I am thankful that Truman made that decision.
Hundreds of thousands of Japanese also survived because of that decision. If we had invaded, the Japanese would have fought to the bitter end which included the civilian population.


29 posted on 08/06/2005 10:35:16 PM PDT by Cricket24 ("We have met the enemy and it's the U.S. press (and the democrats)!")
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To: jordan8
Most people don't know this...

This was a flyer dropped before the bomb was dropped.

Front side of OWI notice #2106, dubbed the “LeMay bombing leaflet,” which was delivered to Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and 33 other Japanese cities on 1 August 1945. Office of War Information [OWI] presses were turning out leaflets that revealed the special nature of Hiroshima’s destruction and predicted similar fates for more Japanese cities in the absence of immediate acceptance of the terms of the Potsdam agreement. The Japanese text on the reverse side of the leaflet carried the following warning:

“Read this carefully as it may save your life or the life of a relative or friend. In the next few days, some or all of the cities named on the reverse side will be destroyed by American bombs. These cities contain military installations and workshops or factories which produce military goods. We are determined to destroy all of the tools of the military clique which they are using to prolong this useless war. But, unfortunately, bombs have no eyes. So, in accordance with America's humanitarian policies, the American Air Force, which does not wish to injure innocent people, now gives you warning to evacuate the cities named and save your lives. America is not fighting the Japanese people but is fighting the military clique which has enslaved the Japanese people. The peace which America will bring will free the people from the oppression of the military clique and mean the emergence of a new and better Japan. You can restore peace by demanding new and good leaders who will end the war. We cannot promise that only these cities will be among those attacked but some or all of them will be, so heed this warning and evacuate these cities immediately.”

(See Richard S. R. Hubert, “The OWI Saipan Operation,” Official Report to US Information Service, Washington, DC 1946.) By 9 August, more than 5 million leaflets about the atom bomb had been released over major Japanese cities. The OWI radio station beamed a similar message to Japan every 15 minutes.

30 posted on 08/06/2005 10:42:15 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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What I find most amazing about this is the statement:

"The peace which America will bring will free the people from the oppression of the military clique and mean the emergence of a new and better Japan."

Can anyone deny this was totally %100 true? If it had been the Soviets and not the Americans, would Japan be like it is today, or more like N. Korea?


31 posted on 08/06/2005 10:44:30 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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OH GUYS you know what they have something on Discovery Channel tonight that was pretty cool they interview one of the dudes he claim he name the plane after HIS MOTHER LOL!


32 posted on 08/06/2005 10:45:42 PM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in, it for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: jordan8
"The use of the atomic weapon was a necessary moment in history. We have no regrets."

Nor should they. They did the country and the world at large a tremendous service by landing the final blows to defeat an enemy whose evil is not fully appreciated to this day. Still.

33 posted on 08/06/2005 10:47:56 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: Basilides
It is likely, at least based on some of Groves' writings, that one more bomb would have been used on a Japanese city, probably Kokura. After that, tactical use for the invasion was highly likely as well as the use of poison gas.
34 posted on 08/06/2005 10:49:11 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Tom Tancredo- The Republican Party's Very Own Cynthia McKinney.)
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To: rlmorel
"But, unfortunately, bombs have no eyes."

and now days they do !
I strongly suggest we go to work on Iran (and Syria) right away before , 1: they can acquire nuclear weapons and their delivery vehicles 2: they can do our ground forces anymore damage by continuing to support the insurgency in Iraq and terrorism around the world.

We need a Gen. Curtis LeMay today!
Let's do this thing without further delay or commiserating.
35 posted on 08/06/2005 10:49:47 PM PDT by injin
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To: jordan8


ENOLA GAY CREW - - "NO REGRETS" YEAH!!!


36 posted on 08/06/2005 10:50:39 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: jordan8

Good for them for making this statement.

But, next year the surviving crewmembers will again be asked if they regret dropping the bomb. The press continually shows its leftist colors; acting surprised and even appalled that they get the same answer year after year.


37 posted on 08/06/2005 11:14:45 PM PDT by kenth
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To: Travis McGee
Thank God and Truman for that.

Sadly, there are a few FReepers who also question the morality of the decision: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1457266/posts

38 posted on 08/06/2005 11:22:37 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Travis McGee
Try this again: US bishops mark anniversary of atomic bombings, condemn ‘total war’
39 posted on 08/06/2005 11:23:44 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Spktyr

What caused them to remember was the voice of the Emperor. We forget that they regarded him as divine.


40 posted on 08/06/2005 11:32:29 PM PDT by RobbyS (chirho)
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