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To: tgslTakoma
Sow doubt. Sow dissent.

So then we have a repeat of Vietnam. That's my take on it.

Ah no. As I pointed out. They have staged thousands of these little hissy fits since Dec 2000. Remind me again, who won the election in Nov 2004?

Look I know Vietnam was a formative period for a certain generation of Americans but it is completely intellectually bankrupt to compare the two.

Start with just the most obvious flaw. 9-11. The Vietnam war did not start with the mass murder of 3000 American Civilians. Most Americans could not understand why we were in Vietnam, they do understand Iraq. In all the hissy fits about Bush's poll numbers, the Dinosaur media missed the absolute vital one. 60% of Americans when asked say Iraq is "the right thing to do" Considering how rarely we get any poll numbers showing such a majority on an issue, THAT number is the significant fact. All you have to do to understand it is look around Freeper land. About 1/3 of Freepers think we are to GENTAL in fighting Terrorism. What the bone heads in the Dinosaur media do not understand is Bush's Iraq number does NOT translate into any significant support for the Democrats cut and run strategy. The usual clowns in the Dinosaur media assume the link but, as usual, that is case of them writing the story they WISH was happening, rather then the one that actually IS happening. I also find it interesting that the "media" is not reporting that fact that 57% of respondents think the American "News" media's coverage is actively undercutting our efforts in the war.
106 posted on 08/06/2005 5:12:21 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Iraq is a Terrorist bug hotel, Terrorists go in, they do not come out.)
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To: MNJohnnie

I can see your point, but when you say that 9/11 is one of the big differences...

I disagree, because the same MSM that shows these piddling little protests, over and over, also show the congresscritters saying, over and over that the war in Iraq doesn't have anything to do with 9/11.

Therefore, a lot of the people that may now be saying they are against it, but once were FOR it, may be succumbing to the constant drumbeat of anti-war propaganda the the libs and dems have been screaming since 2002!

RE: the war in Vietnam, I was too young to know how the war was handled in the run-up to the John Kerry/Jane Fonda anti-war hearings and protests...so I don't know if we are replicating that now or not.


107 posted on 08/06/2005 5:33:57 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: MNJohnnie
So CNN, ABC, CBS and a couple hundred newspapers across the country have reported on this group's protest, and you are trying to tell me that none of it will have any effect at all on public opinion.

Alrighty then.

What about the effect that this kind of protest, and its subsequent reporting by practically every news outlet in this country, will have on the US military who see and read the news reports?

Do you think they will be so nonchalant about it, or will they be angry? Will they begin to question their role in this "illegitimate war" and will they begin to wonder if many or most Americans also share these protesters opinion?

Is that a risk worth taking?

Photos taken by a protester, at the bottom of this report page.

No, this will never turn into another Vietnam.

114 posted on 08/06/2005 6:23:56 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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