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Susan Torres' Husband and Parents Reveal Strange Happening on Night of Susan's Tragic Collapse
Lifesite News ^ | August 5, 2005 | Lifesite News

Posted on 08/06/2005 9:00:22 AM PDT by Frank Sheed

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August Terri Dailies

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61 posted on 08/07/2005 4:11:48 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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62 posted on 08/08/2005 7:03:28 AM PDT by conservatrice
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To: thompsonsjkc; odoso; animoveritas; DaveTesla; mercygrace; Laissez-faire capitalist; ...

Moral Absolutes Ping.

An uplifting story for people who would like to read a little good news. Sad news with a silver lining.

Can God speak to people in dreams, or while awake for that matter?

Every religion in the world (monotheistic, that is) is founded on the reality that each one of us is an eternal being, that we have an eternal, individual relationship with God, that He is omniscient, omnipresent, and our eternal well wisher and friend, counsellor and father.

The less we trust our own earthly minds and desires, the more we can hear His voice, one way or another.

Freepmail me if you want on/off this pinglist.


63 posted on 08/08/2005 9:28:09 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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She continued, “I tell my children, now do you understand why you must go to Church on Sunday’s and keep your spiritual life in order? You can’t get it in good order in the middle of something like this. Faith is the only thing that gets you through.”

It's a beautiful story, and I praise God for this family. I only wish they'd mentioned that having a relationship with God is the most important thing -- not going to church, not having your spiritual life "in order".

But I digress. I thought the message that this wasn't "to change hardened hearts" but instead, to give hope, was a very interesting and profound one. It's easy to feel deluged by the evil in our world, and so important to see the Grace of God and His Love, which is bigger than all of it.

Even so, come Lord Jesus.
64 posted on 08/08/2005 11:11:55 AM PDT by Zechariah_8_13 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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By way of contrast, all of Susan Torres' organs and systems were failing as a result of her brain cancer.

To all: Yes, I understand the enormous differences between Susan Torres' medical condition and Terri Schiavo's. But there we go again: making distinctions to suit us. My belief is that after delivering her baby, Mrs. Torres' should have been maintained on life support until even the life support no longer supported her life. Otherwise it seems that we're just playing God for our own convenience.

65 posted on 08/08/2005 11:30:38 AM PDT by RustysGirl
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I really needed to see this! Little Susan and her family are giving me hope that all is not yet lost.

I have had a difficult time in my faith journey since Terri's murder. God is good to show me that He sees the whole picture, and I only see one small portion.


66 posted on 08/08/2005 1:10:01 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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You wrote: "My belief is that after delivering her baby, Mrs. Torres' should have been maintained on life support until even the life support no longer supported her life."

The problem here is arriving at an honest definition of death.

If you say that death is the total and irreversible cessation of all brain activity, Susan was dead. If you say it's the total and irreversible cessation of heartbeat, I suppose you could keep every heart beating in every cadaver, if you hooked each and every one of them up to the right kind of electrical gizmo. Nobody would ever die. The hospitals would be stacked with thousands of corpses whose tormented cardiac muscles would still be going lub-dub, lub-dub til the Lord comes again.

But why? This is worse than "playing God" --- it's failing to play human.

Important note: this does not refer to feeding tubes, since feeding is our moral duty toward all who are helpless and entrusted to our care. It does refer to ventilators and other machines whose use becames futile when the patient's brain activity has ceased and his/her organs and systems have failed. This is death. There's nothing left but to say goodbye.

67 posted on 08/08/2005 1:11:42 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (May her soul, and the souls of all the faithful departed, in the mercy of God rest in peace.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

I figured some of us could use a little cheer!

God can speak to those who want to hear Him, on His own sweet time.

And sometimes (I can verify from my own life) no answer is the answer - just letting me know He is the master, I am the servant, and He calls the tunes!

But He is always there, every second.


68 posted on 08/08/2005 1:47:26 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Please. please don't despair!

Fr. John Corapi, in his beautiful meditation on Good Friday, deals with this. He asks, "Who could believe that out of the greatest evil ever perpetrated--Deicide, the creatures kill God--the Lord allowed to come the greatest good, our redemption!"

Indeed. God's way are not our ways. He sees the big picture always and we are assured that He wins in the end!

Blessings!
Frank


69 posted on 08/08/2005 4:20:37 PM PDT by Frank Sheed ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." ~GK Chesterton.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

It will be difficult for any of us to see all the good coming from the legacy of Terri and her murder. It has left an indelible mark on our country and the world. We who have been close to Terri's martyrdom have been so overwhelmed by the evil assaulting our senses that it is hard to see the good springing up. But here we can see. There is more out there coming each day.

8mm


70 posted on 08/10/2005 3:56:38 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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