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To: Petronius
And if you can't tell the difference between defending your country from an invasion (against the British in 1814, for example) and a quixotic foreign adventure launched by a mad emperor because of some harebrained "domino theory", condolences!

The United States do not allow you to selectively obey laws. So it does not matter how you 'feel' about a war, it is your lawful duty to present yourself if drafted.

What if Clinton's foreign policy bumblings necessitated a draft? Would it be a "patriotic duty" to give your life for that modern-day Caligula? How were JFK/LBJ any different? My parents taught me that disobedience to tyrants is the will of God; my church taught me that thou shalt not kill. When were these updated?

A) As far as we know, their are no tyrants in American history. Pesidents are democratically elected to office and can be removed from office. So your 'tyrants' characterization is inaccurate and flawed.

B) The reason that you have the freedom to express yourself openly on these boards is by the the blood of American soldiers, sailors, and Marines.

I am sure that more than a few questioned their President's rationale for the war they were fighting in. However, they all did their duty. Something cowards would not do. They run away like little girls. I already served my country in the USMC.

The bible, as written, does not say, "Thou shall not kill". That is the PC version. It says Thou shall not murder. Big difference.

Neither accidental killing (Numbers 35:22-25) nor justifiable homicide (Ex. 22:2) are a breaking of the sixth commandment. Neither killing in war nor capital punishment are necessarily forbidden in this commandment since God required both in certain cases (Ex.21:12). So the preferred translation is, “You shall not murder.”


You might want to dust off your crystal ball: I was born in the 60s. Does that preclude me from having strong opinions on the draft?

I was born in the 1960's as well. What is your point?

You can have your opinions, but you have to be man enough to have others use the same right to point out the errors and logic flaws in your opinions when you espouse them publiclly.


Watch yourself, NEWBIE.

Believe me, I am not scared of you. A man who would run away from a draft and country in war time is not a real threat to anyone.
70 posted on 08/07/2005 7:13:48 AM PDT by BlackRain
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To: BlackRain
As far as we know, their are no tyrants in American history. Pesidents are democratically elected to office and can be removed from office. So your 'tyrants' characterization is inaccurate and flawed.

Fair enough. How about "lying rat-bastards"? More than one president connived his way into office with the promise of avoiding war. Wilson won in 1916 on the platform, “He kept us out of war.” FDR: "I have said this before, but I shall say it again and again and again; your boys are not going to be sent into any foreign wars.” LBJ cynically promised not "to send American boys nine or ten thousand miles away from home to do what Asian boys ought to be doing for themselves." Democratically elected? Sure, and it makes me wonder if drawing straws would be a better way to go about it.

I am sure that more than a few questioned their President's rationale for the war they were fighting in. However, they all did their duty.

American soldiers had a "duty" to die in a European war for Wilson's feverish delusions and Britain's shameless propaganda? For what, making the world safe for communism & fascism? Conscience trumps "lawful duty" when the law is insane. Good thing the American revolutionaries didn't do their "duty" and obey the king.

I was born in the 1960's as well. What is your point?

Just responding to your post #16, which implied that I avoided conscription.

A man who would run away from a draft and country in war time is not a real threat to anyone.

That depends on which war; and which man.

77 posted on 08/07/2005 11:30:06 PM PDT by Petronius (Hunter S. Thompson: Shine On You Crazy Diamond!)
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