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Let's keep advantage in space "deny others the ability to use space against us"
Miami Herald ^ | August 6, 2005 | J.R. LABBE jrlabbe@star-telegram.com

Posted on 08/06/2005 2:34:32 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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1 posted on 08/06/2005 2:34:33 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Let's keep advantage in space "deny others the ability to use space against us"

Damn straight. I agree.

2 posted on 08/06/2005 2:36:18 AM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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China's Space Trash Observation Center

2005/05/24


Not long ago, the Chinese Academy of Sciences established a space target and debris observation and research center at the Purple Mountain Observatory, the first of its kind in China.

With a team made up of some ten senior space trash experts, the research center expects to establish a micro-space debris database, track down the existing space trashes on a real time basis, spot undiscovered space trashes, work on technologies to detect the space debris that might possibly do harm to space vehicle launch or orbit operation, and eventually establish a risk assessment system. The Purple Mountain Observatory will erect an internationally advanced near celestial body telescope at Xuyi, Jiansu Province, in a move to facilitate the new center's operation. The telescope will cover and track down most of space trashes flying over China's territorial space. To be free from interference, including illuminating lights and air pollution, all observation activities will be staged night only.

http://www.chinaembassy.org.ro/rom/kjwh/t197043.htm

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They're tracking more than trash.


3 posted on 08/06/2005 2:40:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Now that's a worthwhile reason to keep blasting into the icy vacuum of deep space. It might even be the only rational reason, but it's reason enough.
4 posted on 08/06/2005 3:13:47 AM PDT by Jaysun (Name one war — anywhere — that had a "timetable".)
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They're working on it but it's just so un-PC to discuss.


5 posted on 08/06/2005 3:19:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Jaysun

NASA's motto should be:

Imagination - Wealth - Security


6 posted on 08/06/2005 3:21:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
NASA's motto should be:
Imagination - Wealth - Security


I used to think it was:
NASA - with us you can actually watch your money disappear into thin air.
7 posted on 08/06/2005 3:25:22 AM PDT by Jaysun (Name one war — anywhere — that had a "timetable".)
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To: Jaysun

Now. Now.

You get more for your money at NASA than most any other agency I can think of.

NASA's budget is about .07 of the Federal Budget.


8 posted on 08/06/2005 3:54:35 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Make that .007%


9 posted on 08/06/2005 3:55:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Now. Now. You get more for your money at NASA than most any other agency I can think of. NASA's budget is about .07 of the Federal Budget.

The Marshall Space Flight Center and US Space and Rocket Center is less than 20 miles from my house. I thank those guys every chance I get. The Tang, Velcro, and the "true sleeper" foam mattresses. I'm in awe.
10 posted on 08/06/2005 4:06:53 AM PDT by Jaysun (Name one war — anywhere — that had a "timetable".)
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To: Jaysun
LINKS TO:

1. Computer Technology
2. Consumer/Home/Recreation
3. Environmental and Resource Management
4. Health and Medicine
5. Industrial Productivity/Manufacturing Technology
6. Public Safety
7. Transportation

11 posted on 08/06/2005 4:10:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The spinoff stuff is largely irrelevant. I have yet to hear of a significant spinoff that has not been pretty thoroughly debunked. For $15.5 billion a year, you would need some pretty amazing spinoffs and they just aren't there.

In short, I hate them and that's just the way it is. Not that it matters anyway, it's not like I have the authority to end NASA.
12 posted on 08/06/2005 5:06:56 AM PDT by Jaysun (Name one war — anywhere — that had a "timetable".)
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Watch what's going to happen with Bush's Vision for Space Exploration. Maybe you'll be impressed. It's about exploration and learning to live off planet using resources in space, starting on the Moon. There will be a lot of technology and national defense pay-offs. And it will encourage private investment. Stay tuned!


13 posted on 08/06/2005 5:22:51 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Paul_Denton; Jaysun
Damn straight. I agree.

Who doesn't? That's like saying "I'm for curing cancer." The question is (1) should NASA continue to be given that charge; and (2) can NASA do it? The answer to #2 is, more and more to many sober observers, no.

14 posted on 08/06/2005 5:32:41 AM PDT by jammer
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NASA isn't the only U.S. space program.


15 posted on 08/06/2005 5:59:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Of course. The article you posted quotes people in the military. But NASA is a large spender of much of the money devoted to space; the bureaucratic symbol of our space program; and the largest impediment to private space development.


16 posted on 08/06/2005 6:10:32 AM PDT by jammer
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You're not giving President Bush and Mike Griffin much credit for the changes they're planning for NASA and private enterprise.


17 posted on 08/06/2005 6:12:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You are correct. I am not.


18 posted on 08/06/2005 10:22:57 AM PDT by jammer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This issue has several angles: commons of space, air superiority, future of NASA, technogeek cool. Thanks for posting it.


19 posted on 08/06/2005 10:58:23 AM PDT by Kevin OMalley (But once life has begun... termination should not be decided merely by desire. Ted Kennedy 1971)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
``Space is a global commons under international treaty and international law.'' Lord wouldn't argue with Hitchens on that point.

There is no such thing as international law. There is the 1967 Treaty, though, and that is a severe impediment to the development of outer space.

Outer space as a commons? That is socialistic and ought to raise the hackles.

20 posted on 08/06/2005 11:03:42 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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