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To: arnoldpalmerfan
You're splitting hairs.

I know you think that you can actually influence(spin) the world and cleanse Tanc with your replies on a thread at website that is a gathering place for hardliners and kooks.

The problem with that approach is that it is irrelevant. Your proof is irrelevant.

Normally references to events such as this drop from view with time, but this is not the case with Tanc's illegal employees. Im sure that you noted that a Google search brings many hits related to the incident, even after two years.

The incident is not going away.

You understand, this is not all bad for Tanc. Bad press is better than no press. And Tanc's big problem is no press.

If he expects to fill Pat B's shoes, he will have to say some extreme things to get people to notice him.. Even then, he has no chance of succeeding Pat B.

Tanc's problem is that he has no presence. He comes off wishy-washy, almost feminine. You may have seen his recent appearance on CNN when Zogby chewed him up. Tanc was backpeddling like a crawfish. Can you imagine what he would be like sub-ing for Pat on McLaughlin. Eleanor Clift would kick his ass.

You and Tanc should thank me/pay me money for keeping him alive, even if its only a thread at FR.

117 posted on 08/10/2005 1:11:30 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

There is no evidence that Tancredo had any prior knowledge that illegal aliens would be working on his home. There is no evidence that Tancredo approved of illegal aliens working on his house. There is no evidence that Tancredo knowingly hired illegal aliens to work on his house. Tancredo hired a contractor to do the work on his house and the contractor hired the workers.


120 posted on 08/10/2005 7:34:52 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: Ben Ficklin

I am not splitting hairs.

I am not attempting to spin anything. I have stated facts.

You lied when you posted to judgeandjury that a sub-contractor "admitted the illegal were there." I believe that others appreciated the article I posted from the Rocky Mountain News that demonstrated your claim about a supposed comment by the sub-contractor was a lie. It doesn't matter to me how many people read that article. I am happy to have acquired knowledge through my research that enabled me to know that your claim about a supposed comment by the sub-contractor was a lie.

The only proof the left-wing, anti-Republican Denver Post upon which you rely appears to have that illegal aliens helped remodel Cong. Tancredo's home is the word of two (2) illegal aliens. You cannot provide a single story from any media source that quotes Cong. Tancredo as admitting that illegal aliens helped remodel his house.

I'm sure that some people will continue to use the Denver Post story against Cong. Tancredo, including some who hate Cong. Tancredo so much that they must resort to lies to make their points. In the 2004 election, a 527 group paid for a radio ad attacking Cong. Tancredo in which a woman accuses him of using cheap, illegal labor to remodel his home. The woman gave her name and the name of the town in which she lived. Both were a lie, just like you claim of the sub-contractor admitting "the illegals were there." In spite of the attack ad, Cong. Tancredo easily defeated his Demcoratic opponent. The article is below:


Tancredo now in cross hairs of attack ads
By Gabrielle Crist, Rocky Mountain News
October 13, 2004

The group attacking U.S. Rep. Marilyn Musgrave in television ads is now on the hunt for Rep. Tom Tancredo - with a radio ad that began airing Wednesday.

In the ad, a woman is typing a letter to Tancredo. Then the narrator says:


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"My husband and I work hard to teach our children the values of acceptance and the evils of racism, which is why we're so disappointed in your conduct.

"You make a career of trying to punish immigrant workers, then turn around and use cheap, illegal labor to remodel your home. It's insulting to us all."

The reference to illegal labor is based on a 2002 allegation that Tancredo's remodeling contractor hired illegal immigrants to complete work on Tancredo's home.

The contractor denied the allegation.

The woman then gives her name and notes she is from Greenwood Village.

Tancredo's campaign manager, Dave Pearson, said there are several problems with the ad. For starters, he said, there is no such woman in Greenwood Village and no active voter registration for anyone under that name.

Beyond that, he said, Tancredo is not a racist.

"The congressman is in favor of strengthening our borders and eliminating illegal immigration," Pearson said. "There is nothing racist or biased in that."

The ads were paid for by a 527 committee, an independent political group that raises money to promote candidates or issues. The committee, called Coloradans for Plain Talk, used to operate under the name Colorado Families First.

It is led by three wealthy Democrats: Jared Polis, Tim Gilland and Pat Stryker.

Last month, the group began airing two controversial anti-Musgrave television ads. The first showed a Musgrave look-alike stealing a watch from a corpse and referred to the Republican congresswoman's vote against barring nursing homes from charging fees after a patient has died.

The second ad featured a Musgrave look-alike picking the pocket of a soldier and referred to her vote to cut veterans' benefits in a preliminary vote in March. Full benefits and a significant funding increase were added in the final budget bill in July, which Musgrave supported.

Some politicos predicted that the Musgrave ads were so harsh they would hurt her Democratic opponent, Stan Matsunaka.


In light of your dislike of Cong. Tancredo and your claim "he comes off wishy-washy, almost feminine," please state what Republican you desire to see capture the 2008 Republican presidential nomination.

Do you believe this nation's borders are secure? If not, how do you propose to secure them?

Do you agree with Majority Leader Delay's comments about illegal aliens that he made last Thusday night? Here is a link to an article about those comments: http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/politics/3297425 .




128 posted on 08/10/2005 10:25:30 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan
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