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The original poster that I answered with that post had said that Bush's program was going to be about "Chinese and Indian programers and doctors".
In my Post 193, my point #1 was:
1. Establish what "guest workers" we actually need or do not need in agricultural and non-agricultural sectors.
My point #2 was:
2. Write the quotas of the law to reflect those needs.
My position still stands.
The process has not even been allowed to the point of the national debate about "What guest workers, both agricultural and non-agricultural, does the U.S. actually need?"
It only gets to the point of, "It's a horrible idea because it will let in Chinese programers" or "It will make U.S. citizens of all illegal immigrants" or, as stated earlier on this thread, "Only U.S. citizens should ever allowed to work in the U.S.".
Right now, we have total anarchy.
The Easter Bunny will get elected President before the U.S. Government gets tough and deports the so-called "immigrants who are trying to feed their poor families".
Them's the political facts of life in the United States of America in the 21st Century.
The one plan I have seen that addresses America's needs for some foreign workers while taking away the bleeding-heart liberal's sob-stories excuses about "poor immigrants trying to feed their familes" is Bush's Guest Worker Program coupled with penalties for those that violate it.
Bush is FOS on this issue. I pray for the day Roe is overturned because that very day will be the end of the republicans because those that are conservative and love this country will bolt the pubbies (aka dem lite).
Never were truer words spoken!
"The Easter Bunny will get elected President before the U.S. Government gets tough and deports the so-called "immigrants who are trying to feed their poor families".
Bush's Guest Worker Program has a five year residence permittence. That alone sinks it as far as I am concerned. Get out of America and apply to re-enter is the only terms that I believe in. Harsh? Yes, but you are a criminal if you snuck under the fence.
You can't let businessmen do that in a vacuum. They'll establish zero availability of U.S. workers by stipulating a Third World wage, or a compromise wage benchmarked to same, in order spuriously to claim that "no American workers" are available.
You can't implicitly let business control wages, or they'll reset wages to Calcutta levels, because they're greedy and don't want to pay people. My source for that statement? A former boss who came clean 30 years ago, because he knew he'd be getting rid of me in a couple of months anyway -- because I'd asked for the raise I'd been promised a year earlier!
Employers screw workers every chance they get. Adam Smith and Milton Friedman agree, you can't trust those guys for two milliseconds when there's money on the table.
If labor is weak, and when international labor is involved, the government as a whole has to exercise the syndical function, lest its people be beggared by international interests arbitraging and ripsawing regional labor markets, playing whole continents off against one another as a labor oligopsony.