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Euro may become top reserve currency by 2022--study
Reuters ^ | Fri Aug 5, 2005 02:19 PM ET | Reuters

Posted on 08/05/2005 12:10:45 PM PDT by Jordi

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To: Jordi
Well according your photo it seem you are the one with alchool problems...

Hmmm. I have maybe 2-3 drinks per YEAR.

I see a personal attack, but I don't see any rebuttal to any of the points I've mentioned.

21 posted on 08/05/2005 1:58:16 PM PDT by America's Resolve (Liberal Democrats are liars, cheats and thieves with no morals, scruples, ethics or honor!)
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To: Jordi
WASHINGTON, Aug 5 (Reuters) - The euro could supplant the dollar as the world's dominant reserve currency within 20 years if Britain and other European Union countries adopted the unit and the greenback continues to slide, a recent study showed.



Most delusions. The dollar is the reserve currency of choice because it is by far the most stable. The other problem is we are the worlds biggest market. The pathetic economic growth rates in old Europe mean they will never generate the consumption to replace us. Also, This just more of the "United Europe" unleashed hysteria, Like France "boast" that they are going to supplant Boeing. Hate to tell all you doom and gloomers this but Finance is VERY conservative. Almost a century after the sun set on the British Empire London is still one of the primer fiscal capitals in the world.
22 posted on 08/05/2005 1:59:36 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Iraq is a Terrorist bug hotel, Terrorists go in, they do not come out.)
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To: Jordi

But, actually, my apologies. My rant was directed more at the author of the "study" than at you personally.


23 posted on 08/05/2005 2:04:22 PM PDT by America's Resolve (Liberal Democrats are liars, cheats and thieves with no morals, scruples, ethics or honor!)
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To: Jordi
Second is the role of U.S. economic policies and the risk that they might undermine confidence in the dollar through inflation and depreciation.

Oh I see. Europe, which is in far worst shape economically, magical undoes 50 years of rabid socialism and fixes all it's fundamental structural flaws and the United States, basically elects nothing by Biden-Kerry-Clinton style Democrat-Socialists Congress etc to to ruin the Govt here and destroy our economy. Then once those two miracles happen, all the people who have invested in the US and who make their money in the US are suddenly going to rush out and convert....oh wait, who is going to want to give up all those gold wonderful Euroes for our pathetic loser Dollars???? It could happen, my chances of having Jessica Simpson give me a lap dance in the next year are BETTER then the Euro's chances, but it COULD happen.
24 posted on 08/05/2005 2:05:32 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Iraq is a Terrorist bug hotel, Terrorists go in, they do not come out.)
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To: zencat

Except that Italy is already calling the Euro a calamity for their economy. Greece as well.

There's definitely infighting.


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Not only that, France and German cannot even get their fiscal house to meet EU budgetary directives. They make too little and spend too much.

You all did notice the French said NON to the EU right????


25 posted on 08/05/2005 2:07:10 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Iraq is a Terrorist bug hotel, Terrorists go in, they do not come out.)
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To: Alter Kaker


The choose the wrong people IMHO.


26 posted on 08/05/2005 2:10:14 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent Green is People!")
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To: in hoc signo vinces
The choose the wrong people IMHO.

Why is your opinion valuable? Have you read their other writings? Do you know these authors or are you just making assumptions about the quality of the Bush Administration's vetting process.

27 posted on 08/05/2005 2:12:27 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker

"Yes, but the study was commissioned and published by the National Bureau of Economic Research, part of the Bush Administration."

Ah NO it is a Liberal "think tank".
They are the Chicken little variety of think tanks, they come out with these sort of "the sky is falling, the sky is falling" reports about 2xs a month.

http://www.nber.org/info.html

HISTORY OF THE NBER
Founded in 1920, the National Bureau of Economic Research is a private, nonprofit, nonpartisan research organization dedicated to promoting a greater understanding of how the economy works. The NBER is committed to undertaking and disseminating unbiased economic research among public policymakers, business professionals, and the academic community


28 posted on 08/05/2005 2:13:59 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Iraq is a Terrorist bug hotel, Terrorists go in, they do not come out.)
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To: America's Resolve
Some random answers.... 1) "Humanitarian" aid is a way to exercise political power. I cancel you debt you give me concession to exploit those mines/forests/oil fields. It's often a way to bribe goverments.

2)Same of above. No military abroad i.e. less political influence for the U.S. abroad.

3)....and face unrest in Nigeria,Angola ,Guinea and consequent disruption of ExxonMobil plants. Africa has become "interesting" since they found exploitable oil fields there.

4,5,6,7) So you support protectionism, isn't it? No trade, no export , no imports. At least oil and raw materials have to be imported (and since 2004 food too). Actually the U.S imports 1.5 trillion of goods and services a year: can all of them be home-made?

8)movie/music/sowtware industries account for some 5-10% of the economy, and face competition as well. Non piratable Microsoft OSs would be fastly replaced by piratable ones (i.e. Linux). As for music and movies its IMPOSSIBLE to protect them from piracy.

You gave the prescriprtion for suicide.

29 posted on 08/05/2005 2:14:38 PM PDT by Jordi ("I prefer the heaven for the climate , the hell for the company")
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To: Alter Kaker

Why is your opinion valuable? Have you read their other writings? Do you know these authors or are you just making assumptions about the quality of the Bush Administration's vetting process

And again, this has nothing to do with the US Govt. It is a Liberal "think tank", not an arm of the Govt.


30 posted on 08/05/2005 2:14:51 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Iraq is a Terrorist bug hotel, Terrorists go in, they do not come out.)
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To: Jordi

3)....and face unrest in Nigeria,Angola ,Guinea and consequent disruption of ExxonMobil plants. Africa has become "interesting" since they found exploitable oil fields there


Funny how you missed the fact that those are primarily European and Chinese supplier


31 posted on 08/05/2005 2:19:04 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Iraq is a Terrorist bug hotel, Terrorists go in, they do not come out.)
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To: Jordi
Here are the two things you need to read in the article to realize what a puff piece this really is:

"First was the scope for expansion of the euro zone so that it tops the gross domestic product of the United States and envelops London's dominant international financial center."

Not going to happen for the many reasons cited in other peoples posts.

"Second is the role of U.S. economic policies and the risk that they might undermine confidence in the dollar through inflation and depreciation."

This is assuming that the deliberate lowering of the dollar from all time highs a few years ago continues at the same rate for decades - also not going to happen.
32 posted on 08/05/2005 2:22:12 PM PDT by Purple GOPer (The government is a group of people who are usually ungoverned.)
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To: Alter Kaker


I have read this writing, which is enough to derive an "opinion" on this topic, and who was choose to provide advice...so lighten up Francis.


33 posted on 08/05/2005 2:28:44 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent Green is People!")
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To: MNJohnnie
"Funny how you missed the fact that those are primarily European and Chinese supplier"

I should have added some clarifications about oil industry.

Worldwide oil exploration, extraction ,transportation, refining, distribution is dominated by 8-9 Oil Majors of wich ExxonMobil is the biggest. Developments of oil fields in remote areas are usually made by joint ventures including local oil cos' (if there are) plus 2-3 majors. So while industrial nations tend to be supplied by the nearest oil producing areas, it has no implications about the nationality of the Majors doing the job.

I add another irritating ranking, of the world biggest publicy traded oil companies by market value, according Yahoo Finance:

1) ExxonMobil ((U.S.) 372.5 B

2) British Petroleum (Britain) 244.1 B

3) Petrochina (China) 154.6 B

4) Total (France) 152.0 B

5) Royal Dutch (Netherlands) 131.5 B

6) Chevron (U.S.) 126.8 B

7) Eni (Italy) 109.3 B

8) ConocoPhillips (U.S.) 89.4 b

Aggregate data:

1) Europe 636.9

2) U.S. 588.7 B

3) China 154.6 B

34 posted on 08/05/2005 2:38:38 PM PDT by Jordi ("I prefer the heaven for the climate , the hell for the company")
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To: Busywhiskers
Of course 2022 being a ways off, who knows what can happen before then. I predict that by 2022 you will need a wheelbarrow full of Euros to buy a loaf of bread. It's a crap shoot on either scenario
35 posted on 08/05/2005 4:02:33 PM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: Jordi

“Two of the strongest economies in Europe are the UK and Sweden.”

I read here on FR that Sweden has the same GDP (gross domestic product) as Arkansas. Arkansas is the fifth poorest state in the union. This isn’t saying too much for the Swedes.

“The euro could supplant the dollar as the world's dominant reserve currency within 20 years if Britain and other European Union countries adopted the unit and the greenback continues to slide, a recent study showed.”

Dream on. Only if we stood still and stopped growing.


36 posted on 08/05/2005 4:40:24 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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Oh, by the way, I also read here on FR that if Califonia were a seperate country, it would be the 5th richest country in the world. That is what I read. I don't know if it is true with its socialist agenda.

But anyway, phooey with the above article. Consider the source.


37 posted on 08/05/2005 4:49:50 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Milwaukeeprophet

This stagnation have nothing to do with the Euro. It would have happend anyway maybe it would have been worse. The common market makes it easier to trade between countries and saves company time and money. Where do you think the US would have been with 50 states with boarders and passport compare to the common market. My guess is that living standard would not have been at the same level


38 posted on 08/24/2005 11:31:04 AM PDT by tomjohn77
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To: liberty2004

Even the socialist in Germany is giving huge tax cuts. There are major restructioning going on. It might take a year or two, but I am surtain that growth will pick up.


39 posted on 08/24/2005 11:33:25 AM PDT by tomjohn77
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To: tomjohn77

Socialism is bankrupting the countries of Western Europe. Now that the Constitution has been rejected, individual countries may start their printing presses again (France, Germany and others already have incurred deficits over the allowed level). This will drop the Euro's value compared to the dollar.


40 posted on 08/24/2005 11:36:34 AM PDT by winner3000
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