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Argument over Iraq war prompts fatal shooting
AP ^

Posted on 08/05/2005 10:18:16 AM PDT by jmc1969

PRESTONSBURG, Ky. -- A disagreement over the war in Iraq between two friends ended with the fatal shooting of one of the men.

Prosecutors and Kentucky State Police determined that Douglas Moore, 65, of Martin, acted in self-defense. Police did not arrest Moore after the shooting at the Bull Creek Trade Center near Prestonsburg Thursday morning.

The victim, Harold W. Smith, 56, of Manchester, and Moore were friends who each had booths at the center. Smith was shot once in the chest and died at the scene.

They began arguing over the war, said Floyd County Coroner Roger Nelson. "I think Doug was supporting it, and this other guy was against it," he said.

Police said the argument escalated into a fight, and Smith drew a small pistol from his pocket, threatening to kill Moore. Witnesses said Moore pulled a .38-caliber pistol from his pocket and shot Smith once in the chest.

Nelson said he found "a little derringer lying adjacent to Smith's hand where he fell."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; ccw; prestonsburg; rkba
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1 posted on 08/05/2005 10:18:20 AM PDT by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

What a shocker. An anti-war guy turns violent. They never see the irony in that, do they?


2 posted on 08/05/2005 10:19:57 AM PDT by flashbunny (Always remember to bring a towel!)
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To: jmc1969

The liberal shouldn't have pulled out his gun if he didn't intend to use it.


3 posted on 08/05/2005 10:20:15 AM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: jmc1969

The first shot in the new Civil War?


4 posted on 08/05/2005 10:21:02 AM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: flashbunny

Violent, and yet under-armed.


5 posted on 08/05/2005 10:21:31 AM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: nuffsenuff

Old Ben's Rule #3 of firearms: "Never point your weapon at anything you don't intend to shoot"


6 posted on 08/05/2005 10:22:00 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: jmc1969

Oh my....

"the argument escalated into a fight, and Smith drew a small pistol from his pocket, threatening to kill Moore. Witnesses said Moore pulled a .38-caliber pistol from his pocket and shot Smith once in the chest."

Wait, libs are both anti-war and anti-gun, rite? And anti-violence?

*Who* pulled it out 1st? hhmmmm.....

Gives the lie again to libs and their anti-violent behavior.


Oh well, perhaps I misjudge, and in any case, it's quite sad really.


7 posted on 08/05/2005 10:22:18 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: jmc1969

Lucky for us they weren't arguing over Hiroshima.


8 posted on 08/05/2005 10:23:16 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they'll be when you kill them."-Wm. Clayton)
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To: jmc1969
Another not so bright liberal looses another argument, BIG TIME....
9 posted on 08/05/2005 10:24:55 AM PDT by b4its2late (If at first you don't succeed, redefine success.)
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To: My2Cents

Gun rule #1:
Never pull a gun on someone unless you are in the process of shooting them.

Gun rule #2:
Shoot to kill.


10 posted on 08/05/2005 10:25:29 AM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com (Visit the Jefferson Republic for a conservative news portal.)
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To: jmc1969
Good grief, how screwed up is that?

Two "buddies" get into an argument over Iraq and one of them feels compelled to threaten the other with A GUN?

These guys were old enough to know better, acting like gangstaz. Sheesh.

Can't fault the shooter for defending himself, but what kind of freak decides pulling a gun is a suitable way to end an argument?

11 posted on 08/05/2005 10:26:37 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com

Gun rule #2 - shoot to stop the threat as fast as possible. If they die in the process, that's their problem.


12 posted on 08/05/2005 10:26:37 AM PDT by flashbunny (Always remember to bring a towel!)
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To: jmc1969

HA ha...
13 posted on 08/05/2005 10:28:25 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com

Rule #3 If you cap a liberal, be sure to have a throw-down derringer in your other pocket.


14 posted on 08/05/2005 10:29:51 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: jmc1969

Ok I guess the MSM is now going to run stories trying to say the Iraq war is making friends turn against friends.


15 posted on 08/05/2005 10:31:30 AM PDT by sydbas
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"Prosecutors and Kentucky State Police determined that Douglas Moore, 65, of Martin, acted in self-defense. Police did not arrest Moore after the shooting at the Bull Creek Trade Center near Prestonsburg Thursday morning."

- Good Call. Nice to see common sense win out in the end. Still...I'm sure this guy feels terrible about having to do what he did.


16 posted on 08/05/2005 10:32:15 AM PDT by Frenetic
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To: jmc1969

Don't bring "a little derringer" to a gun fight.


17 posted on 08/05/2005 10:34:41 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: nuffsenuff

"The liberal shouldn't have pulled out his gun if he didn't intend to use it."

Well stated.


18 posted on 08/05/2005 10:36:51 AM PDT by goarmy (Sam Adams was a patriot AND a brewer)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

"Gives the lie again to libs and their anti-violent behavior."

Libs aren't violent, they're just stupid and pretend to be. First off...what kind of idiot pulls a gun on someone because they differ on opinion? Second...you don't pull a gun unless you are ready to use it...unles you are stupid and looking to get killed.

I have no remorse for the jackass lib. I do feel bad for his family though.


19 posted on 08/05/2005 10:37:06 AM PDT by Frenetic
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To: jmc1969; HairOfTheDog
.38-caliber pistol

Is this really what they mean? Could it have been, for example, SW Airframe? In this case, are they using the term "pistol" to mean "handgun in general"?

Or, are they perhaps confused, and the person REALLY had a .380 SEMIAUTO (e.g. Sig P232)?

After getting yelled at by Hairofthedog, I never use the word "pistol" anymore. Instead I use "semi" or "semiautomatic pistol." LOL

20 posted on 08/05/2005 10:43:42 AM PDT by rudy45
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