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"We could have had Japan as a dear friend long before American politics (namely, FDR) made the Japanese a resolute enemy. The Japanese were enamored with everything Western and particularly American. We could have had a great ally against the Soviet Union. There never would have been a Red China or Korean Conflict or Vietnam War, Communist Laos, Cambodian Khmer Rouge, or John Kerry. But the world chose to ignore the message of Fatima. Communism spread its errors, and politicians and socialist Americans like President FDR became devout followers."

Very astute observations ... thank you very much.

If you can find it, I would recommend a quick scan of No Clear and Present Danger by Bruce M. Russett (subtitle is "A Skeptical View of the United States Entry into World War II").

Briefly, Churchill's goal was to "save the British Empire" and needed help badly, FDR wanted to save Stalin (Uncle Joe) and the USSR and was more than willing to be unconstitutional (e.g., The Atlantic Charter) and violate international law (e.g., convoying of Lend Lease war materiel, tracking and firing on German U-boats, ...) governing declared neutral countries (viz., the US) aiding belligerents, and Stalin played the game of trading territory and blood for time and the Russian winter, and China had two thrusts - each the US backed to one degree or another ...

The odd country out - Japan. So provoke her into war and scapegoat Kimmel and Short ... Much documentation here still remains classified (e.g., source material used to generate the "Little Blue Dress" of AKAGI ...)

And the winner in 1945 is ... Stalin and the USSR ... thank you FDR and a very partisan US Congress. [See The Yalta Betrayal by Felix Wittmer published in 1953.]

217 posted on 08/10/2005 4:15:19 AM PDT by jamaksin
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http://www.rooseveltmyth.com/RoadRussia/index.html

The Secret in the Closet

The United States and Great Britain, as the major bulwarks of democratic capitalism, were, of course, archenemies whose ultimate downfall was essential. That this project was not to be easy was apparent to such cool plotters as Stalin, Mikoyan, Molotov, Voroshilov, Vishinsky, and the lesser-known, behind-the-scenes zealots of the Politburo; so the most subtle indirections were reserved for its long-term accomplishment. Germany and Japan, the two great buffers against Communist expansion in Europe and Asia, were first to be removed from the path in two simultaneous wars. England, France, and the United States would help Russia crush Germany. The United States could vanquish Japan single-handedly; there was no doubt about that. The Soviet Union would not have to dissipate her strength fighting Japan, but only manage to swoop in at the surrender.[**] A new chaos would be precipitated in China, and into the power vacuums thus created in both Europe and Asia, Soviet Russia would then step.

** A war between Japan and the United States was a consummation which could only have favorable consequences for Soviet Russia because for half a century Japan had been a check to Russian expansionism in the Far East and her defeat in a war with the United States was inevitable. It is well known that pro-Soviet influences in Washington discreetly fomented an outbreak of hostilities. Nor was Moscow indifferent during the months that preceded Pearl Harbor. In January, 1941, Sir Stafford Cripps, then British Ambassador to Russia, wrote in his diary: "At the moment the Russians seem more sphinx-like than ever and I doubt if even the Germans know what they are thinking. There are indications of something being on the tapis with Japan; I think an attempt to encourage Japan to go to war with America and so get Japan defeated and that danger out of the way."


218 posted on 08/11/2005 1:41:14 PM PDT by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child.)
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