Russian Mini-Submarine Stuck on Sea Floor

MYWAY ^ | 5 AUG 2005 | YEVGENY KULKOV

[joesnuffy]

I would think bell/saturation divers or JIM SAM WASP or AX suit equiped divers could do this easily depending upon obstructions.

AX suit

A robotic submersible with an airline to an external valve could give them air..if they have an external air valve..

imo

[csvset]

It is possible to pipe air. The link in the other posts mentions that they've done this in practice. They are a ways down there, so that's one obstacle to overcome. There's another procedure where they'll deliver essential supplies, via a capsule.

There are also Deep Rescue Vehicles capable of mating with other submarines, I'm not sure if the Russian vehicle is compatible.

The link in a earlier post has a bunch of information on the types of training they conducted. The Russians took part in the exercise this year.

Here's hoping for a good outcome.

[Happy2BMe]

Russina Navy blunders ping.

[meema]

Prayers for all aboard. Hope we can help quickly.

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

...said the seamen had enough air to survive one more day.

That's what they said about the Kursk. These guys are probably dead already.

[the invisib1e hand]

here we go again. anymore, an assignment to a Russian sub is worse than being sent to Siberia.

Maybe they ought to quit fooling around with submarines...

[BlessedBeGod]

Prayers for the sailors.

[the invisib1e hand]

John Kerry and his goofy suit poses.

[GonzoGOP]

I'm not sure, but I think the sub stuck on the bottom IS the Russian DSRV. It's going to be hard to rescue the rescue ship, if only because they will need to get another DSRV to the location in 24 hrs.

I'm thinking that the best bet would be to send some kind of remotely piloted vehicle down with a grapple and just drag the sub net and all right to the surface. It may sound crude but if the alternative is letting them suffocate, you think you would have to at least try it.

I really hope they get these guys up.

[HereInTheHeartland]

A 700 ft roll of cable with a hook on the end wouldn't help?
They have another sub which could maybe snag it.
It sounds like this situation is salvagable.

[Majic]

625 feet down x 44 psi / 100 feet depth = 275 psi at their depth.

That's a lot of pressure.

Meanwhile, a day is not a long time for a deep rescue operation. Just getting something with the capability to do it is almost guaranteed to take longer.

It's not looking good for these guys. They need a miracle.

I hope one happens.

[rockabyebaby]

Just heard about this on the news, how sad, this is the second time something like this has happened to Russian sailors, bless their souls and their families. I hope they can be rescused but by all accounts it doesn't look like that will happen.

[bill1952]

I'm thinking that the best bet would be to send some kind of remotely piloted vehicle down with a grapple and just drag the sub net and all right to the surface

It would have to have an enormous amount of thrust to overcome the mass of that sub and net.
Not to mention that sub is not just "sitting" on the bottom.
It is being pressed down into it by untold pressure.
If that bottom is not rock, the suction alone would ensure that it may never ascend.

[SmithL]

[Graymatter]

"Too deep for divers to reach..."

Pipin Ferreras has been down to about 160 meters on a single breath with no scuba gear at all. They're not much deeper than that.
Prayers for their safety---and a little ingenuity.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Hope we can get them some help: It HAS to be rapid response.

Appropirate that Cold War submarine enemies can help a stranded sailor on the bottom.

(That said, why are the Russians still need to do training on these Special Forces insertion mini-subs?)

[Robert A Cook PE]

He hasn't been working down there cutting 1" cables in fishing nets that he can't see, can't unsnag, and can't can't feel interferences!

[green iguana]

Not to mention that sub is not just "sitting" on the bottom. It is being pressed down into it by untold pressure.

No, it's not. The sub is experiencing untold pressure yes, but that pressure is coming at it from all sides. The only thing pressing it into the bottom is ordinary gravity.

[XEHRpa]

I can see the tuna industry responding already...

"No dolphins... or Russians... were harmed in the making of this tuna."

[EQAndyBuzz]

Get a big helo or two, run the cables underneath it and lift it off the floor.