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To: snarks_when_bored
It would be quite interesting to know just what the tyranny loophole was—

The Treaty clause? As I recall, the Constitution subordinates itself to all Treaties ratified under its auspices. If a Treaty establishing a tyranny were ratified, it would trump the Constitution.

But that's a guess....

20 posted on 08/05/2005 7:54:36 AM PDT by longshadow
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To: longshadow
It would be quite interesting to know just what the tyranny loophole was—

The Treaty clause? As I recall, the Constitution subordinates itself to all Treaties ratified under its auspices. If a Treaty establishing a tyranny were ratified, it would trump the Constitution.

But that's a guess....

I googled and got this:

Limited Government in Relation to The Constitution's Treaty Clause

The writer says this:

To be valid, any treaty must be strictly in conformity to--free from any conflict with--the Constitution. A treaty is like a Federal law in this respect.

The Constitution is supreme over laws and treaties; it expressly states (Article VI, Section 2) that: "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land . . ." This means that any such Law (Act of Congress) which violates the Constitution is automatically made null and void to start with--nullified by the Constitution itself--and therefore cannot be a part of the "supreme Law of the Land." This is also true as to treaties.

But I think you're saying that there's some controversy about this. I need to do some remedial work in this area!

21 posted on 08/05/2005 8:53:48 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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