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To: Jim_Curtis
If they were really comfortable with Darwinism, they wouldn't be afraid to discuss alternative theories. It means that they believe that Darwinism requires at least some leap-of-faith to be accepted...that "faith" being a nonscientific thing.

Great, using that logic, we'll just go ahead and:

1. Hold some Islamic prayer sessions in the local church.

2. Teach students that some people can;t add properly, and believe 2+2 = 5 ... if the teachers have solid belief that 2+2=4, then it should provide no confusion to tell students that all answers are equally valid (wait, come to think of it, I think this happens already).

3. Psychiatry classes can teach about demons causing insanity ... it'll certainly help diagnoses.

If you are going to allow alternate theories to be discussed, would you be fine with a teacher ALSO stating that ID is not generally accepted as a valid theory, --- that the idea of God, aliens, or a big computer guiding life along is not well supported by science?

Why not wait until ID is considered a valid scientific theory --- if you consider it to be true, you should know that eventually if IDers actually did some work in the lab for once, instead of the courtroom, they could devlop the theory properly. Presenting a half-baked theory in class will only hurt it.

231 posted on 08/04/2005 5:40:59 PM PDT by bobhoskins (No harm meant ...)
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To: bobhoskins
If they were really comfortable with Darwinism, they wouldn't be afraid to discuss alternative theories. It means that they believe that Darwinism requires at least some leap-of-faith to be accepted...that "faith" being a nonscientific thing. Great, using that logic, we'll just go ahead and: 1. Hold some Islamic prayer sessions in the local church.

The local church has its own religious ideas, why would they want to promote a different religion? You can only apply that analogy if you want to say that Darwinism is a faith.

2.Teach students that some people can;t add properly, and believe 2+2 = 5 ... if the teachers have solid belief that 2+2=4, then it should provide no confusion to tell students that all answers are equally valid (wait, come to think of it, I think this happens already).

That is a man made question for man's observation. What "brought man to be" happened outside the power of man...I think we can all agree that man didn't create man but he did create math.

3. Psychiatry classes can teach about demons causing insanity ... it'll certainly help diagnoses.

Demons driving people insane might be one particular established religious belief but we aren't talking about promoting some established religion. We are considering if "all this" is an accident or not.

If you are going to allow alternate theories to be discussed, would you be fine with a teacher ALSO stating that ID is not generally accepted as a valid theory,

For every theory there is someone who doesn't accept it. I don't care if the teacher tells her class that so-and-so doesn't accept this theory. Tell them that someone somewhere doesn't accept Darwinism too...who cares?

--- that the idea of God, aliens, or a big computer guiding life along is not well supported by science? Why not wait until ID is considered a valid scientific theory

"Considered valid" by whom?

--- if you consider it to be true, you should know that eventually if IDers actually did some work in the lab for once, instead of the courtroom, they could devlop the theory properly. Presenting a half-baked theory in class will only hurt it.

I don't even know what "it" is. I'm for balance and I believe that Darwinism alone doesn't provide all the answers just as I don't believe Freud provides all the answers in psychiatry but Freud sure has consumed the time of many classrooms at the expense of other psychological theory.

In some ways, I think Darwinism is a religion unto itself. Right Wing Professor mentioned "existence angst", I believe some folks become devoted to Darwin to rid themselves of their existence angst...I think RWP showed an instructive bit of projection there.

289 posted on 08/04/2005 7:10:06 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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