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To: Right Wing Professor

Now we're getting somewhere. It's astonishing to me that "scientists" ask religionists not to speak to issues of science which they, supposedly, know nothing about, but then these same scientists don't hesitate to speak to issues of religion, like telling us that evolution doesn't conflict with Christianity. Thanks for your uneducated opinion, but no thanks.

Second, your assertions about what the scientific evidence purportedly demonstrates fails to mention that all of these interpretations and conclusions started with the assumption of evolution. I'm sorry, but proving what you have assumed to be true a priori doesn't count as science. Doh!!! This massive hole in Darwinian Dogma has been written about extensively.

Third, as long as the Darwinistas are on an honesty binge and willing to admit that Darwinism is in absolute conflict with the teachings of the Bible, will you go all the way and admit that if Darwinisim is true then there is absolutely no credible way to construct or believe in any system of morality, ethics, meaning, law, or civilization?

I'm continually amazed how the Darwinist Religious Fanatics are oh so quick to advance their faith commitments in so far as they get rid of the idea of God, but then try to clinng to all the moral order and notions of meaning which derive inherently from theism. If the Belief System which you want to brainwash the kiddies with is correct, then the entire moral system which stops those kiddies or anyone else from raping, torturing, killing, and/or eating you for their afternoon snack is gone too. Are you willing to teach them that?

(Will Provice of Cornell is one of the very few Darwinist kooks who is willing to go down this round, but even then he didn't have the guts to go all the way)

And finally, as explained in a previous thread, historically Darwinism was accepted as Dogma amongst the "elite" long before any meaingful body of supposed evidence existed, even meeting The Prophet's own requirements. Because it's a case of believing what you want to believe, not what the evidence supports.

Darwinism appeals to intellectuals for the same reason that running away from home appeals to children.


160 posted on 08/04/2005 3:28:56 PM PDT by jbloedow
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To: jbloedow
It's astonishing to me that "scientists" ask religionists not to speak to issues of science which they, supposedly, know nothing about, but then these same scientists don't hesitate to speak to issues of religion, like telling us that evolution doesn't conflict with Christianity.

I had 11 years of Catholic education. That's what I was taught. Take it up with the Pope.

Second, your assertions about what the scientific evidence purportedly demonstrates fails to mention that all of these interpretations and conclusions started with the assumption of evolution.

Not at all. People were digging up dinosaur bones, and noticing that there were eons of biological life long before humans came along, well before Charles Darwin.

will you go all the way and admit that if Darwinisim is true then there is absolutely no credible way to construct or believe in any system of morality, ethics, meaning, law, or civilization?

But why would I admit to a fabrication concocted by you?

If the Belief System which you want to brainwash the kiddies with is correct, then the entire moral system which stops those kiddies or anyone else from raping, torturing, killing, and/or eating you for their afternoon snack is gone too

So you're telling me you'd rape, torture, kill and eat people if you didn't believe in God?

If you live within 1000 miles of Lincoln, Nebraska, would you mind signing up for your local sex-offender list now, just in case you have a crisis of faith some time in the near future? I'd sleep better, knowing the cops are watching a guy who's only a few religious doubts away from a Jeffrey Dahmer-like killing spree.

165 posted on 08/04/2005 3:42:24 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: jbloedow
"If the Belief System which you want to brainwash the kiddies with is correct, then the entire moral system which stops those kiddies or anyone else from raping, torturing, killing, and/or eating you for their afternoon snack is gone too. Are you willing to teach them that?"

Errr... You mean vs. the raping, baby slaughter, slavery and child incest of other belief systems. Better check that moral compass again.

"Whoever is captured will be thrust through; all who are caught will fall by the sword.
Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses will be looted and their wives ravished."
Isaiah 13:15-16

"You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly."
Leviticus 25:46

"That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and lay with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up."
Genesis 19

O wait, he was drunk. Yup, never heard that one before.
173 posted on 08/04/2005 3:53:44 PM PDT by ndt
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