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To: GovernmentShrinker
It's not about relative potentials; it's about results. Both types of stem cells were first studied about 50 years ago. ASC's have been used therapeutically for around 20 years. ESC's have no therapeutic use whatsoever at this late date. Please read the article, not just the post. If you have spent the reading time already, I have no comment. But I suspect you have not made the effort.

Michael Fumento is a bona fide authority on many subjects. His style is journalistic; he deals in facts; he is a diligent fellow and if you would have followed any of my recommendations, (e.g. read the source document and/or visit his site), you would have found he answers all his hate mail. I encourage you to send him some.

And while you're there, view his Review of Michael Fumento's Hate Mail (right at the end of the thirty-nine volumes of hate mail) It includes this line:
The aptly named Fumento has set himself the impressive, if not admirable, goal of being the most irritating human being on the planet, and he follows a shrewd principle: If you're going to be an asshole, be a really meticulous asshole. His writings dissect, in thorough, well sourced detail, various public "myths" of heterosexual AIDS, of Gulf War Syndrome, of domestic abuse, etc.

I await your next uninformed response.,

Mr. Fumento would likely respond, as well.

21 posted on 08/04/2005 11:32:51 PM PDT by skeptoid
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To: skeptoid
It's not about relative potentials; it's about results.

No sane person, much less a professional scientist, decides what potential any field of research holds, based solely on results to date. The technology available to study things this small is way ahead of where it was even 5 years ago.

If you look into the pace of developments in the closely related field of assisted reproductive technologies, you'll get a good idea of how fast things are moving. A few years ago, an 8-cell stage IVF embryo with significant fragmentation of its cells had no hope of continuing to develop into a baby, nor would the same embryo have had any hope of becoming a baby if it had been conceived naturally and remained inside its mother's uterus. It was biological waste -- whether you left it in the petri dish a bit longer, or transferred it back into the mother, it simply ceased to develop. But now, embryologists are able to remove the fragmented cells -- essentially performing surgery on 3 day old embryos -- and have found that with these defective cells removed, some of these embryos can go on to develop normally. This was just flat-out impossible 10 years ago, as the technology to perform such "surgery" simply didn't exist. No one had any way to find out whether this idea could actually work, and enable some women who are unable to produce embryos without a lot of fragmentation, to have babies of their own.

NOBODY knows what the relative potentials of embryonic stem cells vs. adult stem cells will be, nor to what extent research on embryonic stem cells might hasten the discovery of important new treatments using adult stem cells, or vice versa. Anyone who claims to know is making a fool of him/herself. Which is why there are no researchers in this field making such claims. Fumento is a JOURNALIST, who is claiming to know better than all the top researchers in this extraordinarily complex field, what the potential for the various avenues of research is. He is a buffoon.

23 posted on 08/05/2005 9:15:43 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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