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NY: Illegal immigrants, Long Islanders clash (Farmingville)
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 8/4/05 | Frank Eltman - AP

Posted on 08/04/2005 11:22:24 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

FARMINGVILLE, N.Y. (AP) - This middle-class Long Island community an hour from New York City and 2,000 miles from the Mexican border has become an unlikely flashpoint in the national debate over illegal immigration, with Hispanics beaten, harassed and evicted in recent weeks.

For more than a decade, immigrants from Mexico or Central America have been drawn to Long Island by the prospect of jobs. Many stand on street corners in Farmingville, waiting for contractors, landscapers and others to offer them a day's work at about $10 an hour. Then at night they go back to their illegally overcrowded single-family homes.

The immigrants, many of whom are believed to have entered the country illegally, have been source of tension among longtime residents since at least the late 1990s, but things have gotten worse this summer - so bad that the head of the Mexican Consulate in New York City said Farmingville was "clearly a red zone after the Arizona border" in the abuse of immigrants.

In late June, two men were charged with a hate crime for allegedly berating a Mexican woman and her husband as the couple backed their van out of a parking lot. Within weeks, two more suspects were arrested and accused of yelling racial epithets and throwing a beer bottle at a Hispanic day laborer.

That same day, four people demonstrating at a 7-Eleven in support of day laborers were arrested when they surrounded an anti-immigration protester's car and refused to let him out.

Police are also investigating an attack in nearby Patchogue on a 61-year-old Ecuadorean man. He was beaten by three men who supposedly asked if he had a green card.

The tension was ratcheted up in mid-June, when officials in the town of Brookhaven, which includes Farmingville, and Suffolk County police began evicting men from overcrowded houses, citing health and safety violations. Dozens of people were jammed into the tiny one-family homes.

So far, at least six houses have been shut by authorities - including three last Friday - leaving more than 100 men homeless, advocates said.

Advocates claimed the immigrants have been thrown into the streets without warning. One advocate called it "ethnic cleansing."

"Many local officials have punted, saying this is a federal issue and we can't do anything about it. Well, there are some things you can do," Suffolk County Executive Steve Levy responded. "Crack down on those contractors, crack down on illegal housing and create a better relationship with immigration officials."

Levy complained that it is the Mexican government's "failed policies, both economically and otherwise, that have been pushing millions of his residents over the border for a better life in America."

Arturo Sarukhan, head of the Mexican Consulate in New York City, agreed that Mexico needs to solve its economic problems so that its citizens do not leave for a better life in America. But he said officials on Long Island must realize that the day laborers are here to stay and "there is a need to work together."

"At the end of the day, they may or may not like it, but it is the reality," he said.

A spokeswoman for the Town of Brookhaven estimated there are 150 houses, each with dozens of suspected illegal workers, in Farmingville, though some landlords have pre-emptively evicted some tenants for fear of trouble with the law.

"If they're going to throw anybody out of an apartment, they have to give them time," said Carlos Tenorio, a 26-year-old day laborer from Mexico City who has been in Farmingville for about nine months. "These people are not the cause of the problem."

Farmingville saw immigration-related violence a few years ago. In 2000, two Mexican men were beaten by two locals who promised them work. On the Fourth of July 2003, a Mexican family barely escaped with their lives after teens set their house ablaze by shooting fireworks through a window. But tensions appeared to ease after three of the assailants were sent to prison - two of them for 25 years to life.

Residents are largely cheering the crackdown on immigrants.

"I think they are doing a terrific job," said Terry Sherwood, who complained that residents in the jammed houses often drink late into the night and urinate and defecate on lawns and backyards. "I don't care who they are, what color they are. I don't care where they come from. Why should people have to live this way?"

Lisa Marino placed a Mexican flag on her front lawn in solidarity with the workers but also applauded efforts by officials to curb illegal housing.

"There's a lack of assimilation," she said of the workers. "You don't leave garbage out, you don't whistle at neighbors. They need to understand that, but by keeping them marginalized, they don't learn that."

Nadia Marin-Molina, an advocate for the day laborers, understands the concerns expressed by neighbors, but insisted "it's a two-way street."

"Some of these same people who are complaining are the people who benefit from the work these guys do," she said. "Because every house has landscaping done, or has to have some job done on their roof, or some painting done."


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Nadia Marin-Molina, an advocate for the day laborers, understands the concerns expressed by neighbors, but insisted "it's a two-way street."

"Some of these same people who are complaining are the people who benefit from the work these guys do," she said. "Because every house has landscaping done, or has to have some job done on their roof, or some painting done."

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It's not just about farm labor anymore.. amnesty and open borders for anyone anytime is what they want, It's their 'right' , yaknow.

1 posted on 08/04/2005 11:22:25 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

The tension was ratcheted up in mid-June, when officials in the town of Brookhaven, which includes Farmingville, and Suffolk County police began evicting men from overcrowded houses, citing health and safety violations. Dozens of people were jammed into the tiny one-family homes.

So far, at least six houses have been shut by authorities - including three last Friday - leaving more than 100 men homeless, advocates said.

Advocates claimed the immigrants have been thrown into the streets without warning. One advocate called it "ethnic cleansing."

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ship 'em back whence they come from..


evicting illegals = "ethnic cleansing" . :\


2 posted on 08/04/2005 11:25:04 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: Travis McGee

fyi


3 posted on 08/04/2005 11:26:08 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: NormsRevenge

Some houses had over 30 men living in them for 250 month each.

I have never hired an illegal but my neighbor has and I get mad every time he does.


4 posted on 08/04/2005 11:26:57 AM PDT by alisasny (We get 4 more years, you get OBAMA...: ))
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To: NormsRevenge
with Hispanics beaten, harassed and evicted in recent weeks.

AP put this in the very first sentence in hopes that folks wouldn't read much further and get the whole story - such as the fact that the evictions were for good cause. And we have the obligatory misplaced modifier:

That same day, four people demonstrating at a 7-Eleven in support of day laborers were arrested when they surrounded an anti-ILLEGAL immigration protester's car

But no, the protestor was opposed to just plain ol' immigration.

5 posted on 08/04/2005 11:27:32 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: NormsRevenge
Arturo Sarukhan, head of the Mexican Consulate in New York City, agreed that Mexico needs to solve its economic problems so that its citizens do not leave for a better life in America. But he said officials on Long Island must realize that the day laborers are here to stay and "there is a need to work together."

"At the end of the day, they may or may not like it, but it is the reality," he said.

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Deport this idiot now. L:et him go fix hos country so they don't all end up crashing our borders and moving here.

6 posted on 08/04/2005 11:28:15 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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ping


7 posted on 08/04/2005 11:29:08 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: NormsRevenge
So far, at least six houses have been shut by authorities - including three last Friday - leaving more than 100 men homeless, advocates said.
Zoning and health laws apply only to citizens and legal residents.
Uh huh.

Advocates claimed the immigrants have been thrown into the streets without warning. One advocate called it "ethnic cleansing."
The illegal aliens cleansed themselves? Someone forced 50 of them to live in a single-family home at gunpoint?
Uh huh.

8 posted on 08/04/2005 11:34:24 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


9 posted on 08/04/2005 11:44:11 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Illegal immigrants are here illegally and should be deported, I don't see what's so difficult about that concept. They sap resources and bring disease and third-world conditions with them. Those that hire them are traitors - not too strong a word - and are also thieves, offloading the burden of supporting their workers to the taxpayers. There are plenty of hard-working people on Long Island who would take $10/hour for their labor, and if a business can't find enough let them move their operations to a place where they can.


10 posted on 08/04/2005 11:44:33 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Free Michael Graham!)
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To: NormsRevenge

So no enforcing the law is ethnic cleansing. Will they call it ethnic cleansing when Gringos are intimidated and forced from their homes in heavily Hispanic neighborhoods? I doubt it--the "celebrate the diversity" crowd in DC and the MSM will just look the other way.


11 posted on 08/04/2005 11:45:11 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: NormsRevenge

The best solution to this problem is for all the "newcomers"
to be moved into the same neighborhoods in which the
members of The Times' editorial board live.The people
of Greenwich and New Canaan will surely be thrilled by
such an arrangement.


12 posted on 08/04/2005 11:48:31 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: thoughtomator

All the little rich turds on Long Island worry about the poor farm workers and jump at the chance for cheap labor. But let a few of the illegals' kids end up in THEIR schools and you'll see a quick turnaround. Especially after the first TB scare.


13 posted on 08/04/2005 11:49:36 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: NormsRevenge
So far, at least six houses have been shut by authorities - including three last Friday - leaving more than 100 men homeless, advocates said.

100/6= a little over 16

They are safer being homeless. If a fire started, and they burned in the fire, they would be complaining that the county didn't do enough to prevent the tragedy.
14 posted on 08/04/2005 11:55:50 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: thoughtomator
"There are plenty of hard-working people on Long Island who would take $10/hour for their labor"

Then why don't they?

I would love to be able to hire day laborers when I have clean up or repair projects instead of having to hire a company to do it, but I don't speak three words of Spanish and there aren't any Anglos standing on street corners looking for work.

Over the years I've tried hiring neighborhood teens and college kids but even when I've been able to get them to agree to work they have turned out to be next to worthless.

There's a reason for illegal laborers being here, we need the labor.

15 posted on 08/04/2005 12:03:43 PM PDT by bayourod (Winning elections is the only thing. Those who glorify losing are unclear on the subject of democrac)
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To: blackie
Then come help in October. Ya could not ask for a better "vacation" than a week or two on the border...

http://txminutemen.com/id17.html

16 posted on 08/04/2005 12:05:17 PM PDT by TLI (. ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA,. .Minuteman Project, Day -1 to Day 8)
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To: NormsRevenge
Advocates claimed the immigrants have been thrown into the streets without warning. One advocate called it "ethnic cleansing."

Uh, I think what they did is called "cleaning house." Don't you think "ethnic cleansing" is if we KILLED THEM ALL? ;o)

17 posted on 08/04/2005 12:06:28 PM PDT by NRA2BFree
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To: bayourod

We don't need the labor at the price of turning parts of the USA into third-world hellholes. Those folks you speak of would gladly do the work if a modest effort to communicate with them was made, instead of bypassing the legal market entirely in favor of picking up illegals on streetcorners.

Even if we were in desperate need of more labor - something I doubt given the high levels of unemployment among the segments of society in direct competition with illegals - such a need is properly addressed through legal immigration and technological innovation, not illegal immigration.


18 posted on 08/04/2005 12:09:01 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Free Michael Graham!)
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To: NRA2BFree

If an American yells a racial slur in English at a Mexican and the Mexican cannot understand English is that a violation of the Mexicans civil rights


19 posted on 08/04/2005 12:10:50 PM PDT by MudSlide
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To: TLI

I'll be with ya mind and spirit!

Be Ever Vigilant!


20 posted on 08/04/2005 12:13:18 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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