Your argument seems to be that you embody and speak for all valid intellectual pursuit in this area, and woe betide anyone that should be so moronic to disagree with you. You talk about science as it were some sort idealized ediface rather than an practice and discipline that fallible human being pursue. SO be it.
You are completely missing my point, perhaps because you are accustom to canned, knee jerk responses to IDers around here.
ID vs. Evolution per se does not interest me from either side. What does interest me is the inability of the "Scientific Crowd" (with a few really powerful exceptions) to differentiate science from philosophy in their own minds, and their inability to understand what the "other side" is saying to them. I am also quite taken aback by the high handed rudeness of the "Evo" group.
I find talking to you pointless, as you are not even paying attention to what I am talking about. Perhaps you do not understand what I am saying, but whatever the story is, you are obviously up on a well worn hobby horse. Ride away, I am sorry I disturbed you.
Oh, yes. Some are seriously involved in science. Even the science of evolution and common ancestry. I don't claim to be any expert, but some seriously are.
As I mentioned, the "two sides" are so completely in different universes that they really can't be argued against one another. As we cannot.
As for "hobby horses" and the "rudeness" of evolutionists, many around here have been frustrated by a continual repetition of the same old discredited arguments. Many of them debunked literally a hundred years ago.
I do admit that you come at this from a completely different direction, so it has been a pleasure talking with you.
Sorry for the briskness.