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To: GeronL
Would it not have been more moral to demo the bomb on a remote island in fron t of Jap representatives to acheive a surrender?

If they, upon seeing the results continued, to resist....then we drop the bomb?

9 posted on 08/03/2005 10:59:52 PM PDT by zarf
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To: zarf

Punch drunk punctuation.


10 posted on 08/03/2005 11:00:53 PM PDT by zarf
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To: zarf

They continued to resist AFTER Hiroshima... thats why there was Nagasaki. That should answer the question.


13 posted on 08/03/2005 11:04:26 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: zarf
Would it not have been more moral to demo the bomb on a remote island in fron t of Jap representatives to acheive a surrender?

Read your history. We had Precisly TWO devices, one we were pertty sure would work, one we were not so sure.

Which one do you demo with, and which do you save for the real thing?

Why do people who make supprise and unprovoked attacks on a nation at peace deserve a demonstration? We were already at war - not trying to prevent one.

15 posted on 08/03/2005 11:11:45 PM PDT by konaice
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To: zarf
With some the recent release of magic intercepts, that idea would have been ludicrous.

The japanese where moving divisions into the invasion area at such a high rate attacking to defensive troops would have been 1 to 1.

Plus all the little buggies they were experimenting with in Manchuria.

No demonstration, hell after the first bomb they were still willing to fight.

For further proof read the battle history of Okinawa, and imagine what would have happened on a scale of about ten times as grand.

23 posted on 08/03/2005 11:20:06 PM PDT by dts32041 (Shinkichi: Massuer, did you see that? Zatôichi: I don't see much)
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To: zarf

Sure, because we had a stockpile of nukes sitting out there for endless demonstrations of our capabilities.

We had two. It took two to end the war. Now we should have giving one or more 'demonstrations' to a country full of fanatics ready to die for their 'God'?


27 posted on 08/03/2005 11:22:28 PM PDT by flashbunny (Always remember to bring a towel!)
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To: zarf
If they, upon seeing the results continued, to resist....then we drop the bomb?

Doubtful at best. We "Tested" the MOAB in an area of Florida and it's destructive force prior to using it; and yet, the haji's still wanted to resist.

We dropped a couple MOAB's and still they(haji's) resist.

Bottom line, IMO, leaflet the target area: "leave now, in 2 hours hell comes in" and disengage with "rules of engagement" and let our guys go to work. Ugly? yes. Will we take casulties? Yes. Will they? They'll be crushed by our professional forces.

Word will spread quick.

< / armchair general mode off.>

Note: I mean such use for the area's that we continue to take resistance in; mostly the outlying area's and especially along the borders.

Mike

29 posted on 08/03/2005 11:25:53 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: zarf
If they, upon seeing the results continued, to resist....then we drop the bomb?

What would we have done if it had been a dud? If I remember right, even after the nucs went off, their council, or whatever they were called, were still tied 3-3 in voting to end the war. If I am not mistaken, the emperor broke the tie.

89 posted on 08/04/2005 9:29:13 AM PDT by Mark17
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To: zarf
Would it not have been more moral to demo the bomb

They had an ample opportunity to know about it when the first "demo" was done in Nevada.

They weren't impressed with that.

Besides we only had two more and the first at Heroshema didn't do the trick.

It was only because a pilot who had been captured told them we had a whole ship load and would continue to drop them one every two weeks, that it began to get the message accross.

98 posted on 08/04/2005 2:28:06 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: zarf
Would it not have been more moral to demo the bomb on a remote island in fron t of Jap representatives to acheive a surrender?

After the atrocities that the Japanese had committed by that late date, I am astonished that anyone would repeat that question, and include the word "moral" in it.

104 posted on 08/04/2005 4:32:44 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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