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Joan Collins: Britain Destroying Itself from Within
UK Daily Mail, Drudge Report ^ | 4 August 2005 | Joan Collins

Posted on 08/03/2005 9:28:54 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater

BRITAIN DESTROYING ITSELF FROM WITHIN

BY JOAN COLLINS UK DAILY MAIL THUS AUG 04, 2005

A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within, said the American historian Will Durrant about ancient Rome. This self-destruction of values is exactly what is happening in England today.

Yes, I still call the country of my birth England, in spite of the peculiar political correctness that insists that it be called 'the UK' and that we, its denizens, must be 'Britons'.

Even though the Welsh are proud to call themselves Welsh, as are the Irish and certainly the Scots, woe betide the Briton who calls himself 'English' -- a much-frowned-upon no-no.

I believe that when a country loses so much respect for itself that it can no longer even be identified by its historically correct name, insecurity and lack of respect filter down to its inhabitants.

Recently, I have concluded that London is no longer the 'seat of civilised society' that the world once considered it to be, and is certainly not the safe city I grew up in.

A particular incident demonstrated the lack of respect and manners that is but a small example of the horrible, encroaching decay of the country that I love dearly.

My husband Percy and I were at a ball at the Grosvenor House Hotel -- a black-tie event attended by the socalled 'elite' of the city.

As Percy held the door open to let me through, a 6ft tall, middle-aged, horse-faced male pushed past me, trod on the hem of my dress and rushed outside to climb into the taxi that the doorman had waiting for us.

This was a person who should, or at least looked like he should, have known better. The cause of his behaviour? The awful pervasive disregard that we have for civility today.

Bump accidentally into someone in the street these days and you are soundly cursed. Look at a poor derelict collapsed in a doorway for more than a second and they'll spit at you. Surely everyone has experienced the barely suppressed rage lurking behind the faces of a vast number of car drivers.

We've become the 'Whatcha lookin' at?' culture. Why do young people consider it cool to be arrogant, swaggering and rude? Why do so many people in England seem so cynical and self-centred?

I witnessed young, drunken yobs roaming the streets kicking cars, screaming insults, pushing people and even pushchairs out of their way, attacking each other viciously and then turning on the police when they tried to maintain order.

THE WHOLE scene evoked the image of hordes of inebriated Vikings sacking devastated towns. Even during the day, feral mobs roamed the cities with absolute disregard for anyone else's property or well-being. Traditional virtues of male chivalry and female propriety were very far from view.

After all, a lack of manners and politeness in a society can only be a reflection of what the society thinks of itself.

It's frightful how being told that you are no good makes you hate yourself, and hate others. And it's frightful how quickly a whole country of self-loathers can be bred.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; civility; collins; england; joan; joancollins; politeness
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To: skr

"a 6ft tall, middle-aged, horse-faced male pushed past me, trod on the hem of my dress and rushed outside to climb into the taxi that the doorman had waiting for us."

Are you sure that wasn't Prince Charles?


41 posted on 08/03/2005 10:26:24 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Senator Goldwater

Letterman doesn't like her. And now this column. Wow, two reasons to admire Joan Collins.


42 posted on 08/03/2005 10:27:23 PM PDT by Rocky
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To: Senator Goldwater
We've become the 'Whatcha lookin' at?' culture. Why do young people consider it cool to be arrogant, swaggering and rude? Why do so many people in England seem so cynical and self-centred? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is your answer Joan...10 years of this leading the free world....
43 posted on 08/03/2005 10:34:36 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache ("Scientology is dangerous stuff,it's like forming a religion based around Johnny Quest and Haji.")
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To: Senator Goldwater
"A 6ft tall, middle-aged, horse-faced male pushed past me, trod on the hem of my dress and rushed outside to climb into the taxi that the doorman had waiting for us"

Teddy, or Chris Dodd?

"Didn't she know WHO I AM?!"

44 posted on 08/03/2005 10:36:10 PM PDT by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: Senator Goldwater
The rudeness she describes is partially a result of decades of entrenched socialism, hailed by US liberals as a symbol of their greater sophistication, compassion, and moral superiority. Socialism has built a culture where a man needn't marry the mother of his children because the state, not the father, provides health care, housing, education, and sometimes food. Without a male role model, discipline (particularly that of young males) is left to women alone who often cannot psychologically much less physically control their sons. Education is secondary to the pursuit of easily obtainable material distractions and "pubbing" is alot more fun than studying. The provisions of the state replaced God and anyone not primarily focused on the secular world is considered somehow provincial or stupid.

Too bad about the bully who should have known better taking her cab. But given the morality (and private behavior and manners) of the Royals, why expect more from the next rungs of society.

45 posted on 08/03/2005 10:49:18 PM PDT by MHT
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To: Senator Goldwater

Couldn't have been Teddy, she didn't say "Pig-Faced"!


46 posted on 08/04/2005 5:24:41 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (BOHICA!)
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To: goldstategop

good point!


47 posted on 08/04/2005 5:37:33 AM PDT by Canedawg (modern liberalism is a communist plot)
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To: goldstategop

Actually, I agree with Joan on this article about the descending standards of civility. Nobody has ever said she wasn't smart, BUT her reference to "yobs" (gangboys) makes me think she's read "Clockwork Orange" about 30 years too late.


48 posted on 08/04/2005 5:43:51 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (Democrat motto: You'd be bitter and humorless too if you were wrong about everything!)
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To: ApplegateRanch

LOLOLOLOL! You've got that right!


49 posted on 08/04/2005 5:44:27 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (Democrat motto: You'd be bitter and humorless too if you were wrong about everything!)
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To: Lori675
Yes, Percy Gibson is 32 years younger than Collins.


50 posted on 08/04/2005 6:01:14 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Windsong

Quote: Old news. People have been rude here since the country was founded.


Bullcrap. The US is getting corser. When I see young teen girls giving the finger and calling everyone a motherf**ker we have slid down hill.

Joan is right on the money.


51 posted on 08/04/2005 6:11:47 AM PDT by superiorslots (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: goldstategop

"The ACLU loves sex, jerks and terrorists in no particular order. To get to where we are now, normalcy had to be defined down."


You forgot pedophiles.


52 posted on 08/04/2005 7:34:19 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: Senator Goldwater

Just the other day I accidentally bumped into a woman in a hotel. I stopped, turned around, and apologized profusely. She looked at me like I had just killed her puppy. She did not forgive me. I saw her again later and she snarled at me.


53 posted on 08/04/2005 8:31:50 AM PDT by Hildy ("You miss 100% of the shots you never take." - Wayne Gretzky)
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