And what is the point of your long winded post and citations? You failed to explain to us what you would have us learn from the quotes you posted.
As to the authorized direct tax contained in our Constitution, sorry you object to the emergency direct tax upon the states intended to be used in case of emergencies, such as an annual deficit created by Congress.
But forcing members of Congress to return to their state with a bill for their state’s apportioned share of an annual deficit created by Congress establishes a moment of accountability my friend___ especially when the raising of a state’s share is dumped into the laps of a state’s Legislature and Governor! Sorry you don’t like accountability
“Picture, for a moment, the expression on the faces of the Governor of New York and the New York State Legislature, if New York should receive a bill for its apportioned share [31/435] of the 1995 federal deficit. This threat would create a compelling incentive for the Governor of each state, and the various state legislatures, to keep a jealous eye on the spending habits of their Congressional Delegation . . . it would require the fiscal accountability which the state governments once demanded from their Senate and House Members!”
For those interested in the direct tax allowed by our Constitution, and how our Founding Fathers intended it to work, CLICK HERE and scroll down to :
American Constitutional Research Service Before the
Committee on Ways and Means
United States House of Representatives
June 1995
Mr. Chairman and Members of this Committee:
For those who are interested to learn how and when the direct tax was used see:
APPORTIONMENT OF A DIRECT TAX TO RAISE A TOTAL OF $ 2 MILLION TREASURY DEPARTMENT MAY 25TH 1798
An Act to lay and collect a direct tax within the united states [1st direct tax July 14, 1789 for $2 million and each state’s share of the $2million being raised.]
An Act to repeal the internal taxes April 3rd, 1802
And Act for the assessment and collection of direct taxes, July 22, 1813
Act laying a direct tax for $3 million August 2, 1813, and each state’s share of the tax
Section 7 of direct tax of 1813 allowing states to pay their respective quotas and be entitled to certain deductions.
And., as I have previously documented for you, For a $20 million direct tax being imposed upon the states in 1861, and the amounts required to be paid by each of the various states, see HERE and use the buttons at the bottom of the page to go forward and backward to read the legislation.
Regards,
JWK
And what is the point of your long winded post and citations?
You realize of course the individual who reads the commentary on this website is presumed to have sufficient education to discern for themselves what the read in going to a reviewing the material linked to for each citation.
It certainly is not my nor anyone's place to do their interpretations for them. Or would you rather play the propagandist that tells everyone what they should believe.
You failed to explain to us what you would have us learn from the quotes you posted.
Do you have a mouse in your pocket?
As to the authorized direct tax contained in our Constitution, sorry you object to the emergency direct tax upon the states intended to be used in case of emergencies, such as an annual deficit created by Congress.
Ones mans normal course of fiat money banking, is another's emergency I guess.
But forcing members of Congress to return to their state with a bill for their state’s apportioned share of an annual deficit created by Congress establishes a moment of accountability my friend
Only if you can convince Congress Critters to sponsor, introduce and vote for a direct tax that even the founders found short on the revenue side for even the miniscule federal budgets of that era.
- "A nation cannot long exist without revenues. Destitute of this essential support, it must resign its independence, and sink into the degraded condition of a province. This is an extremity to which no government will of choice accede. Revenue, therefore, must be had at all events. In this country, if the principal part be not drawn from commerce, it must fall with oppressive weight upon land."
- "It is evident from the state of the country, from the habits of the people, from the experience we have had on the point itself, that it is impracticable to raise any very considerable sums by direct taxation."
- "The ability of a country to pay taxes must always be proportioned, in a great degree, to the quantity of money in circulation, and to the celerity with which it circulates. Commerce, contributing to both these objects, must of necessity render the payment of taxes easier, and facilitate the requisite supplies to the treasury."
- "The change relating to taxation may be regarded as the most important; and yet the present [Continental] sic Congress have as complete authority to REQUIRE of the States indefinite supplies of money for the common defense and general welfare, as the future [Constitutional] Congress will have to require them of individual citizens;
James Madison, Elliots Debates Vol 3 p128:
- Mr. Chairman, in considering this great subject, I trust we shall find that part which gives the general government the power of laying and collecting taxes indispensable, and essential to the existence of any efficient or well-organized system of government: if we consult reason, and be ruled by its dictates, we shall find its justification there: if we review the experience we have had or contemplate the history of nations, here we find ample reasons to prove its expediency. There is little reason to depend for necessary supplies on a body which is fully possed of the power of witholding them. If a government depends on other governments for its revenues -- if it must depend on the voluntary contributions of its members -- its [*129] existence must be precarious."
- "If the general government is to depend on the voluntary contribution of the states for its support, dismemberment of the United States may be the consequence."
You do have at least one sponsor and a bill introduced into the House or Senate don't you? Please let us know what it's bill number is.
I can't seem to find such a document in any legislative session of Congress since your statements and conjectures of the:
"American Constitutional Research Service Before the
Committee on Ways and Means
United States House of Representatives
June 1995"
by founder "John William Kurowski" (John W K).
submitted on your own to the House Ways & Means Committee for their perusal and appropriate action.
Where is the legislation you have convinced at least one member of Congress to support?
As far as I can see, said committe may have filed it in the nearest trash can. Certainly doesn't seem to have generated any interest or comment where it means something, among the representitives of Congress who are charged with enactment of legislation and proposing Constitutional amendments for the states to ratify.
So far you have provided not answer to this fundamental question.
What are the introduced bill numbers or number, so we can provide appropriate support to this legislation of yours?