A little more life for the 767 line.
Posted on 08/03/2005 12:26:38 PM PDT by Righty_McRight
SEATTLE, Aug. 2, 2005 -- The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA] confirmed today Chile-based LAN Airlines recently placed additional firm orders for six Boeing 767-300 airplanes. The order includes a combination of 767-300 freighters and 767-300ERs (Extended Range).
These six 767s were previously designated to an "unidentified" customer on the Boeing Commercial Airplanes Orders and Deliveries Web site. These orders are in addition to six 767s ordered by the airline last year.
The announcement came during a delivery ceremony late last week for the first of the 12 airplanes on order. Absa Cargo, an affiliate of LAN Airlines, took delivery of a 767-300 freighter. A second 767 freighter is scheduled for delivery to LAN in October with the other airplanes on order to be delivered through October 2008.
The 767 freighter can carry 64 tons (58 metric tons) of revenue payload at a range of 3,270 nautical miles (6,056 kilometers). LAN took delivery of its first 767-300 freighter in September 1998. It presently operates six 767-300 freighters.
The estimated value of the 12 ordered aircraft at list prices is $1.73 billion.
"We are very impressed by LAN's continued expansion and successes in Latin America using Boeing airplanes," said John Wojick, vice president sales, Latin America and the Caribbean , Boeing Commercial Airplanes. "The 767 is a long range, fuel-efficient airplane which remains an airline favorite for its superior operating economics."
LAN Airlines and its group of affiliated companies plan to use the airplanes for a combination of fleet growth and renewal.
The Boeing 767 family is a complete family of airplanes providing maximum market versatility in the 200- to 300-seat market. The Boeing 767 family includes three extended-range (ER) passenger models – the 767-200ER, 767-300ER and 767-400ER – and a freighter, which is based on the 767-300ER fuselage.
All three passenger models are offered in a variety of takeoff weights, which allow operators to choose only the amount of design weight needed to satisfy their requirements. These offer corresponding design ranges from just over 5,645 nautical miles (10,454 km) to as many as 6,600 nautical miles (12,223 km). This range versatility gives the 767 family the ability to efficiently serve routes as short as U.S. domestic and pan-European to long-range flights over the North Atlantic and North Pacific. The 767 crosses the Atlantic from the United States to Europe more often than any other jetliner.
Schedule reliability – an industry measure of departure from the gate within 15 minutes of scheduled time – is nearly 99 percent for the 767. Fleet-wide, daily utilization – the actual time the airplane spends in the air – averages more than 10 hours.
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Contact: Nicolaas Groeneveld-Meijer, (206) 776-2229
A little more life for the 767 line.
They'll be built in Bellevue just outside of Seattle (west side of WA). Union memberships will increase. Unions support demoncRATS. More demoncRATS on west side of state. WA stays BLUE state.
Would you rather have the Frogs get the money?
No. Would prefer Boeing built the planes on the east side or out of state. Anything to keep from the west side to consistently having all the power in the state.
Understood. Does Boeing still have facilities in Kansas?
Dunno. However, Boeing corporate offices moved from Bellevue to Chicago about 3-4 years ago. Sure had the demoncRAT gov bending over backwards with lotsa tax incentives to woo Boeing business back. It worked! Believe me when I say that WA is NOT business friendly either.
The way I reed this is zero net unit change.
Some one canceled and LAN picked up the units, probably at firesale prices.
Is this a misintrepetation?
LAN was the "unidentified customer". They had probably put down a deposit to save a spot on the production line, but wanted time to think over the deal fully before going ahead with the deal.
I read it as they were the original buyer, merely unidentified. Now they have gone public with their additional order. Still zero net.
Thanks for the updates.
Yeah, still zero net.
Other unidentified orders:
737's = 27
767's = 1
777's = 5
787's = 6
The 787's might be for Poland's national airline.
I thought the 767 was being retired - to be replaced by the 787.
Another variant Boeing could consider would be a longer range 767-300 freighter based on the upgraded 767-400ER that I just described. It would be the upgraded 767-400ER shortened to the length of a 767-300ER with the same operating weights as the 767-400ER. Such a freighter would be a good candidate to turn into a military tanker/transport. It could carry freight and offloadable fuel simultaneously. It would able to supplement the KC-10 fleet while having commonality with the E-10 and the regular version of the KC-767 based on the 767-200ER. The KC-10 fleet can't be expanded, because Boeing has destroyed the tooling, but it does have the advantage of being able to carry the personnel and equipment of fighter squadrons that are being deployed while carrying fuel to refuel the fighters.
I was also wondering if the KC-767 will have the conventional 757/767 cockpit or the 777/767-400ER cockpit. Considering that the USAF will be buying the 767-400ER as the platform for the E-10, I think it would make sense for all the KC-767's to have a common cockpit with the more modern 767-400ER.
Orders are just a trickle right now, but they're trying to keep the line running in the hopes of getting the Air force tanker deal (KC-767).
The 767 is a better platform for a KC-135 replacement. It has a shorter wing span that lets it take up less ramp space at air fields and will be able to use all the exiting hangers currently used by the KC-135's. It is also a good medium range civilian freighter. Another advantage is that there are no producition slots available for the 787 before 2010, while there are plenty of available slots for the 767 line.
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Why would theydestroy the tooling? Are you sure?
Because the MD-11 was a competitor to the 777. Most of the passenger MD-11's have been or are being converted to freighters. Many of the DC-10's still flying including all the USAF KC-10's have had their cockpits updated with the 2-man glass cockpit of the MD-11 and have been redesignated as MD-10's. Various modifications are still available for existing DC-10 and MD-11 aircraft from Boeing, but no new aircraft can be built.
Wait, Bellevue? Are you sure? I wasn't aware that Boeing had any fabrication facilities in Bellevue, nor would I imagine that the huge amount of space necessary for an aircraft factory would be cost-effective in the fantastically-expensive city.
I'm pretty sure that the 767 is manufactured at the Paine Field facility in Everett.
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