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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

...There is no excuse for the Iraqi Army not to be doing this police action....

Yes, there is.

It isn't any Iraqi army...

Those pour souls who didn't got blown up at te recruitment centers are not soldiers...
For years this is the only way to get some income, so they sign up to get some money to feed their family.
And if someone gives them hundred dollars to tell the terrorist where is the next patrol will go, they tell...

The "real" soldiers with proper training and purpose, the Republican Guard and the Fedayen enjoys the support of large segments of the population for over 2 years.
They are happy to train the "would be" terrorists, the desperate youngsters who can not see much future there.

I guess if Bremer did not mess up the situation by outlawing them, this problem would had passed long ago with less casualty on both side.

...If it is the Iraqis fault in that they do not want to fight for their own freedom...

Yes .... but they did not asked for it .... not this way anyway... Maybe they have a different images of freedom than they see everyday, and they do not feel to pay for THIS kind of freedom...





143 posted on 08/03/2005 5:51:48 AM PDT by bozot
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To: bozot; Jeff Head

During the American Revolution, our rag-tag army fought for their own nation and for freedom. We were outclassed, but it was the desire and passion and leadership that won the Revolution for us.

The "poor Iraqi" lame excuse (not your words) doesn't cut it. If they can't get their national act together to fight terrorism, they will never be able to run their own country themselves. If this is the case, we are wasting our time and dying unnecessarily.

I have two nephews in Iraq (one Marine nephew has been there twice and their unit is on notice of a third trip there soon) and I have a third nephew that has top-secret clearance (ex-Army and now private sector under government contract). Whatt is going on over there is BS. We are not waging war but a politcally correct police action.

In fact, my one Marine nephew is with a heavy artillery unit. Guess what? They are stuffing rifles in their hands and told to go be infantry. They were trained in heavy artillery and now fighting street to street against thugs hiding in mosques that we are not allowed to blow up, even though they are used as bunkers. This is no way for a Marine to die. That are trained to wage war, not LBJ style BS.


170 posted on 08/03/2005 6:17:03 AM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: bozot

It isn't any Iraqi army...

Those pour souls who didn't got blown up at te recruitment centers are not soldiers...
For years this is the only way to get some income, so they sign up to get some money to feed their family.



Recruitment? Recruitment centers. Why isn't there just Marial Law and general conscription and curfews and so on. The Iraqis should have 600,000 men under arms now. Instead its like the country is trying to remain normal and combat this insurgency as if it were just a passing crime spree.

Draft everyone between 16 and 56. They don't report they die. We need to stop halfazzing in Iraq. Time is not on our side. Our enemies are developing nukes and we are still playing nice with a bunch of punks with RPGs!

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343 posted on 08/03/2005 9:54:25 AM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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