[ErnBatavia]

You would be amazed at the number of CA FReepers that will call you a liar on that statement.

Any of them that do are braindead as to the attendance at their favorite local places...or wondering why those favorites just kinda faded away.

[Gabz]

I know what you mean - but they've been calling me a liar for years when I provide factual information about how bad these bans are for business, regardless of location.

My first hand experience is not in California, but Delaware, Maryland and Virginia.........Not only have I witnessed the increase in MD and VA business since the DE ban went into effect - I have been privy to the books of owners in all 3 states...........so I truly know exactly what the DE ban has done to business. I understand that PA and NJ businesses near the state line have seen similar shifts.